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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	shaoyafang@didiglobal.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memcg: add allocstall to memory.stat
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190411133300.GX10383@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbD7PwABb+OX=2JHzcTTLhv_-o8Wxk7hX-0+M5ZNUtokhA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 11-04-19 20:41:32, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:27 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu 11-04-19 19:59:51, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > The current item 'pgscan' is for pages in the memcg,
> > > which indicates how many pages owned by this memcg are scanned.
> > > While these pages may not scanned by the taskes in this memcg, even for
> > > PGSCAN_DIRECT.
> > >
> > > Sometimes we need an item to indicate whehter the tasks in this memcg
> > > under memory pressure or not.
> > > So this new item allocstall is added into memory.stat.
> >
> > We do have memcg events for that purpose and those can even tell whether
> > the pressure is a result of high or hard limit. Why is this not
> > sufficient?
> >
> 
> The MEMCG_HIGH and MEMCG_LOW may not be tiggered by the tasks in this
> memcg neither.
> They all reflect the memory status of a memcg, rather than tasks
> activity in this memcg.

I do not follow. Can you give me an example when does this matter? I
thought it is more important to see that there is a reclaim activity
for a specific memcg as you account for that memcg.
If you want to see/measure a reclaim imposed latency on a task then
the counter doesn't make so much sense as you have no way to match that
to a task. We have tracepoints for that purpose.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-11 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-11 11:59 Yafang Shao
2019-04-11 12:26 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-11 12:41   ` Yafang Shao
2019-04-11 13:39     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-04-11 13:54       ` Yafang Shao
2019-04-11 15:10         ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-12  1:32           ` Yafang Shao
2019-04-12  6:34             ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-12  8:10               ` Yafang Shao
2019-04-12  9:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-12  9:29                   ` Yafang Shao
2019-04-12  9:36                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-12  9:48                       ` Yafang Shao

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