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From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>, Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/11] mm/hmm: add default fault flags to avoid the need to pre-fill pfns arrays.
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 22:12:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190329021225.GG16680@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7710f64-c17e-feef-f453-e01340461e7e@nvidia.com>

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 07:05:21PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 3/28/19 6:59 PM, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> >>>>>> [...]
> >>>>> Indeed I did not realize there is an hmm "pfn" until I saw this function:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /*
> >>>>>  * hmm_pfn_from_pfn() - create a valid HMM pfn value from pfn
> >>>>>  * @range: range use to encode HMM pfn value
> >>>>>  * @pfn: pfn value for which to create the HMM pfn
> >>>>>  * Returns: valid HMM pfn for the pfn
> >>>>>  */
> >>>>> static inline uint64_t hmm_pfn_from_pfn(const struct hmm_range *range,
> >>>>>                                         unsigned long pfn)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So should this patch contain some sort of helper like this... maybe?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm assuming the "hmm_pfn" being returned above is the device pfn being
> >>>>> discussed here?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm also thinking calling it pfn is confusing.  I'm not advocating a new type
> >>>>> but calling the "device pfn's" "hmm_pfn" or "device_pfn" seems like it would
> >>>>> have shortened the discussion here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That helper is also use today by nouveau so changing that name is not that
> >>>> easy it does require the multi-release dance. So i am not sure how much
> >>>> value there is in a name change.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Once the dust settles, I would expect that a name change for this could go
> >>> via Andrew's tree, right? It seems incredible to claim that we've built something
> >>> that effectively does not allow any minor changes!
> >>>
> >>> I do think it's worth some *minor* trouble to improve the name, assuming that we
> >>> can do it in a simple patch, rather than some huge maintainer-level effort.
> >>
> >> Change to nouveau have to go through nouveau tree so changing name means:
> 
> Yes, I understand the guideline, but is that always how it must be done? Ben (+cc)?

Yes, it is not only about nouveau, it will be about every single
upstream driver using HMM. It is the easiest solution all other
solution involve coordination and/or risk of people that handle
the conflict to do something that break things.

Cheers,
Jérôme


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-29  2:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-25 14:40 [PATCH v2 00/11] Improve HMM driver API v2 jglisse
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] mm/hmm: select mmu notifier when selecting HMM jglisse
2019-03-28 20:33   ` John Hubbard
2019-03-29 21:15     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-29 21:42       ` John Hubbard
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] mm/hmm: use reference counting for HMM struct v2 jglisse
2019-03-28 11:07   ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-28 19:11     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 20:43       ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 21:21         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-29  0:39           ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 16:57             ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-29  1:00               ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-29  1:18                 ` John Hubbard
2019-03-29  1:50                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 18:21                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-29  2:25                       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-29 20:07                         ` John Hubbard
2019-03-29  2:11                     ` John Hubbard
2019-03-29  2:22                       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] mm/hmm: do not erase snapshot when a range is invalidated jglisse
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] mm/hmm: improve and rename hmm_vma_get_pfns() to hmm_range_snapshot() v2 jglisse
2019-03-28 13:30   ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] mm/hmm: improve and rename hmm_vma_fault() to hmm_range_fault() v2 jglisse
2019-03-28 13:43   ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-28 22:03     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] mm/hmm: improve driver API to work and wait over a range v2 jglisse
2019-03-28 13:11   ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-28 21:39     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 16:12   ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-29  0:56     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 18:49       ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm/hmm: add default fault flags to avoid the need to pre-fill pfns arrays jglisse
2019-03-28 21:59   ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 22:12     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 22:19       ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 22:31         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 22:40           ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 23:21             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 23:28               ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 16:42                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-29  1:17                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-29  1:30                     ` John Hubbard
2019-03-29  1:42                       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-29  1:59                         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-29  2:05                           ` John Hubbard
2019-03-29  2:12                             ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2019-03-28 23:43                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] mm/hmm: mirror hugetlbfs (snapshoting, faulting and DMA mapping) v2 jglisse
2019-03-28 16:53   ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] mm/hmm: allow to mirror vma of a file on a DAX backed filesystem v2 jglisse
2019-03-28 18:04   ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-29  2:17     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] mm/hmm: add helpers for driver to safely take the mmap_sem v2 jglisse
2019-03-28 20:54   ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 21:30     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 21:41       ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 22:08         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 22:25           ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 22:40             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 22:43               ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 23:05                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 23:20                   ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 23:24                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-28 23:34                       ` John Hubbard
2019-03-28 18:44                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-25 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] mm/hmm: add an helper function that fault pages and map them to a device v2 jglisse
2019-04-01 11:59   ` Souptick Joarder

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