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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm, page_alloc: disallow __GFP_COMP in alloc_pages_exact()
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:36:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190314113626.GJ7473@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1dc997a3-7573-7bd5-9ce6-3bfbf77d1194@suse.cz>

On Thu 14-03-19 11:30:03, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 3/14/19 11:15 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 14-03-19 10:42:49, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >> alloc_pages_exact*() allocates a page of sufficient order and then splits it
> >> to return only the number of pages requested. That makes it incompatible with
> >> __GFP_COMP, because compound pages cannot be split.
> >> 
> >> As shown by [1] things may silently work until the requested size (possibly
> >> depending on user) stops being power of two. Then for CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, BUG_ON()
> >> triggers in split_page(). Without CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, consequences are unclear.
> >> 
> >> There are several options here, none of them great:
> >> 
> >> 1) Don't do the spliting when __GFP_COMP is passed, and return the whole
> >> compound page. However if caller then returns it via free_pages_exact(),
> >> that will be unexpected and the freeing actions there will be wrong.
> >> 
> >> 2) Warn and remove __GFP_COMP from the flags. But the caller wanted it, so
> >> things may break later somewhere.
> >> 
> >> 3) Warn and return NULL. However NULL may be unexpected, especially for
> >> small sizes.
> >> 
> >> This patch picks option 3, as it's best defined.
> > 
> > The question is whether callers of alloc_pages_exact do have any
> > fallback because if they don't then this is forcing an always fail path
> > and I strongly suspect this is not really what users want. I would
> > rather go with 2) because "callers wanted it" is much less probable than
> > "caller is simply confused and more gfp flags is surely better than
> > fewer".
> 
> I initially went with 2 as well, as you can see from v1 :) but then I looked at
> the commit [2] mentioned in [1] and I think ALSA legitimaly uses __GFP_COMP so
> that the pages are then mapped to userspace. Breaking that didn't seem good.

It used the flag legitimately before because they were allocating
compound pages but now they don't so this is just a conversion bug.
Why should we screw up the helper for that reason? Or put in other words
why a silent fix up adds any risk?

> The point is that with the warning in place, A developer will immediately know
> that they did something wrong, regardless if the size is power-of-two or not.
> But yeah, if it's adding of __GFP_COMP that is not deterministic, a bug can
> still sit silently for a while.
> 
> But maybe we could go with 1) if free_pages_exact() is also adjusted to check
> for CompoundPage and free it properly?

I dunno, it sounds like it adds even more confusion.

> >> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181126002805.GI18977@shao2-debian/T/#u
> 
> [2]
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=3a6d1980fe96dbbfe3ae58db0048867f5319cdbf
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-14 11:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-14  9:39 [PATCH] " Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14  9:42 ` [PATCH v2] " Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14 10:15   ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 10:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14 11:36       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-03-14 11:56         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 12:09           ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 13:15             ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 13:29               ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 16:52                 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 17:37                   ` Hugh Dickins
2019-03-14 18:00                     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 18:15                       ` Hugh Dickins
2019-03-14 20:13                         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 18:51   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-18 12:21   ` [PATCH v3] " Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-18 12:43     ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-19  8:45     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-19  9:47     ` Mel Gorman

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