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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Souptick Joarder <jrdr.linux@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	shaoyafang@didiglobal.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: vmscan: show zone type in kswapd tracepoints
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:38:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190312133816.GR5721@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbDHM1mJ3X9x3vFpDagd81T+hrb7_xdqM12x6JQXuHqwxA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 12-03-19 19:04:43, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 4:47 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri 01-03-19 15:38:54, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > If we want to know the zone type, we have to check whether
> > > CONFIG_ZONE_DMA, CONFIG_ZONE_DMA32 and CONFIG_HIGHMEM are set or not,
> > > that's not so convenient.
> > >
> > > We'd better show the zone type directly.
> >
> > I do agree that zone number is quite PITA to process in general but do
> > we really need this information in the first place? Why do we even care?
> >
> 
> Sometimes we want to know this event occurs in which zone, then we can
> get the information of this zone,
> for example via /proc/zoneinfo.
> It could give us more information for debugging.

Could you be more specific please?

> > Zones are an MM internal implementation details and the more we export
> > to the userspace the more we are going to argue about breaking userspace
> > when touching them. So I would rather not export that information unless
> > it is terribly useful.
> >
> 
> I 'm not sure whether zone type is  terribly useful or not, but the
> 'zid' is useless at all.
> 
> I don't agree that Zones are MM internal.
> We can get the zone type in many ways, for example /proc/zoneinfo.
> 
> If we show this event occurs in which zone, we'd better show the zone type,
> or we should drop this 'zid'.

Yes, I am suggesting the later. If somebody really needs it then I would
like to see a _specific_ usecase. Then we can add the proper name.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-12 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-01  7:38 Yafang Shao
2019-03-11  8:47 ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-12 11:04   ` Yafang Shao
2019-03-12 13:38     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-03-12 14:10       ` Yafang Shao

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