From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@kernel.org>,
"Alexander Shishkin" <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@redhat.com>,
"Namhyung Kim" <namhyung@kernel.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Restore change_pte optimization to its former glory
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 21:43:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190219024347.GA8311@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190219023701.GA3223@xz-x1>
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:37:01AM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 12:45:05PM -0500, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:04:13AM -0500, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > > So i run 2 exact same VMs side by side (copy of same COW image) and
> > > built the same kernel tree inside each (that is the only important
> > > workload that exist ;)) but the change_pte did not have any impact:
> > >
> > > before mean {real: 1358.250977, user: 16650.880859, sys: 839.199524, npages: 76855.390625}
> > > before stdev {real: 6.744010, user: 108.863762, sys: 6.840437, npages: 1868.071899}
> > > after mean {real: 1357.833740, user: 16685.849609, sys: 839.646973, npages: 76210.601562}
> > > after stdev {real: 5.124797, user: 78.469360, sys: 7.009164, npages: 2468.017578}
> > > without mean {real: 1358.501343, user: 16674.478516, sys: 837.791992, npages: 76225.203125}
> > > without stdev {real: 5.541104, user: 97.998367, sys: 6.715869, npages: 1682.392578}
> > >
> > > Above is time taken by make inside each VM for all yes config. npages
> > > is the number of page shared reported on the host at the end of the
> > > build.
> >
> > Did you set /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/sleep_millisecs to 0?
> >
> > It would also help to remove the checksum check from mm/ksm.c:
> >
> > - if (rmap_item->oldchecksum != checksum) {
> > - rmap_item->oldchecksum = checksum;
> > - return;
> > - }
> >
> > One way or another, /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_shared and/or
> > pages_sharing need to change significantly to be sure we're exercising
> > the COW/merging code that uses change_pte. KSM is smart enough to
> > merge only not frequently changing pages, and with the default KSM
> > code this probably works too well for a kernel build.
>
> Would it also make sense to track how many pages are really affected
> by change_pte (say, in kvm_set_pte_rmapp, count avaliable SPTEs that
> are correctly rebuilt)? I'm thinking even if many pages are merged by
> KSM it's still possible that these pages are not actively shadowed by
> KVM MMU, meanwhile change_pte should only affect actively shadowed
> SPTEs. In other words, IMHO we might not be able to observe obvious
> performance differeneces if the pages we are accessing are not merged
> by KSM. In our case (building the kernel), IIUC the mostly possible
> shared pages are system image pages, however when building the kernel
> I'm thinking whether these pages will be frequently accesses, and
> whether this could lead to similar performance numbers.
I checked that, if no KVM is running KSM never merge anything (after
bumping KSM page to scan to 10000 and sleep to 0). It starts merging
once i start KVM. Then i wait a bit for KSM to stabilize (ie to merge
the stock KVM pages). It is only once KSM count is somewhat stable
that i run the test and check that KSM count goes up significantly
while test is running.
KSM will definitly go through the change_pte path for KVM so i am
definitly testing the change_pte path.
I have been running the micro benchmark and on that i do see a perf
improvement i will report shortly once i am done gathering enough
data.
Cheers,
Jérôme
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-19 2:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-31 18:37 jglisse
2019-01-31 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] uprobes: use set_pte_at() not set_pte_at_notify() jglisse
2019-02-02 0:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-02-11 19:27 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm/mmu_notifier: use unsigned for event field in range struct jglisse
2019-02-02 1:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-01-31 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] mm/mmu_notifier: set MMU_NOTIFIER_USE_CHANGE_PTE flag where appropriate jglisse
2019-01-31 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] kvm/mmu_notifier: re-enable the change_pte() optimization jglisse
2019-02-01 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Restore change_pte optimization to its former glory Andrea Arcangeli
2019-02-02 0:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-02-11 19:09 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-11 20:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-02-18 16:04 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-18 17:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-02-18 18:20 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-19 2:37 ` Peter Xu
2019-02-19 2:43 ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2019-02-19 3:33 ` Jerome Glisse
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