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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	kirill@shutemov.name, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, will.deacon@arm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] mm: Introduce lazy exec permission setting on a page
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:04:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190218090433.bxtty3rrgo4ln6hp@mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3da12849-bc56-cb9b-f13f-e15d42416223@arm.com>

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 02:01:55PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 02/14/2019 10:25 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 2/13/19 8:12 PM, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> On 02/13/2019 09:14 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >>> On 2/13/19 12:06 AM, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>>> Setting an exec permission on a page normally triggers I-cache invalidation
> >>>> which might be expensive. I-cache invalidation is not mandatory on a given
> >>>> page if there is no immediate exec access on it. Non-fault modification of
> >>>> user page table from generic memory paths like migration can be improved if
> >>>> setting of the exec permission on the page can be deferred till actual use.
> >>>> There was a performance report [1] which highlighted the problem.
> >>>
> >>> How does this happen?  If the page was not executed, then it'll
> >>> (presumably) be non-present which won't require icache invalidation.
> >>> So, this would only be for pages that have been executed (and won't
> >>> again before the next migration), *or* for pages that were mapped
> >>> executable but never executed.
> >> I-cache invalidation happens while migrating a 'mapped and executable' page
> >> irrespective whether that page was really executed for being mapped there
> >> in the first place.
> > 
> > Ahh, got it.  I also assume that the Accessed bit on these platforms is
> > also managed similar to how we do it on x86 such that it can't be used
> > to drive invalidation decisions?
> 
> Drive I-cache invalidation ? Could you please elaborate on this. Is not that
> the access bit mechanism is to identify dirty pages after write faults when
> it is SW updated or write accesses when HW updated. In SW updated method, given
> PTE goes through pte_young() during page fault. Then how to differentiate exec
> fault/access from an write fault/access and decide to invalidate the I-cache.
> Just being curious.

The access flag is used to identify young/old pages only (the dirty bit
is used to track writes to a page). Depending on the Arm implementation,
the access bit/flag could be managed by hardware transparently, so no
fault taken to the kernel on accessing through an 'old' pte.

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-18  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-13  8:06 Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-13  8:06 ` [RFC 1/4] " Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-13 13:17   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-13 13:53     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-14  9:06       ` Mike Rapoport
2019-02-15  8:11         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-15  9:49           ` Catalin Marinas
2019-02-13  8:06 ` [RFC 2/4] arm64/mm: Identify user level instruction faults Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-13  8:06 ` [RFC 3/4] arm64/mm: Allow non-exec to exec transition in ptep_set_access_flags() Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-13  8:06 ` [RFC 4/4] arm64/mm: Enable ARCH_SUPPORTS_LAZY_EXEC Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-13 11:21 ` [RFC 0/4] mm: Introduce lazy exec permission setting on a page Catalin Marinas
2019-02-13 15:38   ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-14  6:04     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-14  8:38       ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-14 10:19         ` Catalin Marinas
2019-02-14 12:28           ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-15  8:45             ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-15  9:27               ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-18  3:07                 ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-14 15:38       ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-18  3:19         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-13 15:44 ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-14  4:12   ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-14 16:55     ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-18  8:31       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-18  9:04         ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2019-02-18  9:16           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-18 18:20         ` Dave Hansen

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