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From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Maya Gokhale <gokhale2@llnl.gov>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org>,
	Denis Plotnikov <dplotnikov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Marty McFadden <mcfadden8@llnl.gov>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 03/24] mm: allow VM_FAULT_RETRY for multiple times
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 11:53:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190122165310.GB3188@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190122082238.GC14907@xz-x1>

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 04:22:38PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:55:36AM -0500, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 03:57:01PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > The idea comes from a discussion between Linus and Andrea [1].
> > > 
> > > Before this patch we only allow a page fault to retry once.  We achieved
> > > this by clearing the FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY flag when doing
> > > handle_mm_fault() the second time.  This was majorly used to avoid
> > > unexpected starvation of the system by looping over forever to handle
> > > the page fault on a single page.  However that should hardly happen, and
> > > after all for each code path to return a VM_FAULT_RETRY we'll first wait
> > > for a condition (during which time we should possibly yield the cpu) to
> > > happen before VM_FAULT_RETRY is really returned.
> > > 
> > > This patch removes the restriction by keeping the FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY
> > > flag when we receive VM_FAULT_RETRY.  It means that the page fault
> > > handler now can retry the page fault for multiple times if necessary
> > > without the need to generate another page fault event. Meanwhile we
> > > still keep the FAULT_FLAG_TRIED flag so page fault handler can still
> > > identify whether a page fault is the first attempt or not.
> > 
> > So there is nothing protecting starvation after this patch ? AFAICT.
> > Do we sufficient proof that we never have a scenario where one process
> > might starve fault another ?
> > 
> > For instance some page locking could starve one process.
> 
> Hi, Jerome,
> 
> Do you mean lock_page()?
> 
> AFAIU lock_page() will only yield the process itself until the lock is
> released, so IMHO it's not really starving the process but a natural
> behavior.  After all the process may not continue without handling the
> page fault correctly.
> 
> Or when you say "starvation" do you mean that we might return
> VM_FAULT_RETRY from handle_mm_fault() continuously so we'll looping
> over and over inside the page fault handler?

That one ie every time we retry someone else is holding the lock and
thus lock_page_or_retry() will continuously retry. Some process just
get unlucky ;)

With existing code because we remove the retry flag then on the second
try we end up waiting for the page lock while holding the mmap_sem so
we know that we are in line for the page lock and we will get it once
it is our turn.

Cheers,
Jérôme

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-22 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-21  7:56 [PATCH RFC 00/24] userfaultfd: write protection support Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:56 ` [PATCH RFC 01/24] mm: gup: rename "nonblocking" to "locked" where proper Peter Xu
2019-01-21 10:20   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 02/24] mm: userfault: return VM_FAULT_RETRY on signals Peter Xu
2019-01-21 15:40   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-22  6:10     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 03/24] mm: allow VM_FAULT_RETRY for multiple times Peter Xu
2019-01-21 15:55   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-22  8:22     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-22 16:53       ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2019-01-23  2:12         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-23  2:39           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  5:45             ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 04/24] mm: gup: " Peter Xu
2019-01-21 16:24   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  7:05     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-24 15:34       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-25  2:49         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 05/24] userfaultfd: wp: add helper for writeprotect check Peter Xu
2019-01-21 10:23   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-22  8:31     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 06/24] userfaultfd: wp: support write protection for userfault vma range Peter Xu
2019-01-21 10:20   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-22  8:55     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21 14:05   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-22  9:39     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-22 17:02       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-23  2:17         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-23  2:43           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  5:47             ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 07/24] userfaultfd: wp: add the writeprotect API to userfaultfd ioctl Peter Xu
2019-01-21 10:42   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-24  4:56     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-24  7:27       ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-24  9:28         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-25  7:54           ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-25 10:12             ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 08/24] userfaultfd: wp: hook userfault handler to write protection fault Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 09/24] userfaultfd: wp: enabled write protection in userfaultfd API Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 10/24] userfaultfd: wp: add WP pagetable tracking to x86 Peter Xu
2019-01-21 15:09   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  5:16     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-24 15:40       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-25  3:30         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 11/24] userfaultfd: wp: userfaultfd_pte/huge_pmd_wp() helpers Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 12/24] userfaultfd: wp: add UFFDIO_COPY_MODE_WP Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 13/24] mm: merge parameters for change_protection() Peter Xu
2019-01-21 13:54   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  5:22     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 14/24] userfaultfd: wp: apply _PAGE_UFFD_WP bit Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 15/24] mm: export wp_page_copy() Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 16/24] userfaultfd: wp: handle COW properly for uffd-wp Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 17/24] userfaultfd: wp: drop _PAGE_UFFD_WP properly when fork Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 18/24] userfaultfd: wp: add pmd_swp_*uffd_wp() helpers Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 19/24] userfaultfd: wp: support swap and page migration Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 20/24] userfaultfd: wp: don't wake up when doing write protect Peter Xu
2019-01-21 11:10   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-24  5:36     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 21/24] khugepaged: skip collapse if uffd-wp detected Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 22/24] userfaultfd: wp: UFFDIO_REGISTER_MODE_WP documentation update Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 23/24] userfaultfd: selftests: refactor statistics Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 24/24] userfaultfd: selftests: add write-protect test Peter Xu
2019-01-21 14:33 ` [PATCH RFC 00/24] userfaultfd: write protection support David Hildenbrand
2019-01-22  3:18   ` Peter Xu
2019-01-22  8:59     ` David Hildenbrand

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