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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] memcg: schedule high reclaim for remote memcgs on high_work
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:59:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190111205948.GA4591@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190110174432.82064-1-shakeelb@google.com>

Hi Shakeel,

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 09:44:32AM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> If a memcg is over high limit, memory reclaim is scheduled to run on
> return-to-userland.  However it is assumed that the memcg is the current
> process's memcg.  With remote memcg charging for kmem or swapping in a
> page charged to remote memcg, current process can trigger reclaim on
> remote memcg.  So, schduling reclaim on return-to-userland for remote
> memcgs will ignore the high reclaim altogether. So, record the memcg
> needing high reclaim and trigger high reclaim for that memcg on
> return-to-userland.  However if the memcg is already recorded for high
> reclaim and the recorded memcg is not the descendant of the the memcg
> needing high reclaim, punt the high reclaim to the work queue.

The idea behind remote charging is that the thread allocating the
memory is not responsible for that memory, but a different cgroup
is. Why would the same thread then have to work off any high excess
this could produce in that unrelated group?

Say you have a inotify/dnotify listener that is restricted in its
memory use - now everybody sending notification events from outside
that listener's group would get throttled on a cgroup over which it
has no control. That sounds like a recipe for priority inversions.

It seems to me we should only do reclaim-on-return when current is in
the ill-behaved cgroup, and punt everything else - interrupts and
remote charges - to the workqueue.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-11 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-10 17:44 Shakeel Butt
2019-01-10 17:44 ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-11 20:59 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2019-01-11 22:54   ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-11 22:54     ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-13 18:34     ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-14 20:18       ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-14 20:18         ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-15  7:25         ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-15 19:38           ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-15 19:38             ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-16  7:02             ` Michal Hocko

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