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From: "Gaël PORTAY" <gael.portay@collabora.com>
To: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, usb-storage@lists.one-eyed-alien.net
Subject: Re: [usb-storage] Re: cma: deadlock using usb-storage and fs
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 14:29:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181227192940.77p5gj3garpgahnm@archlinux.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <da35de2c-b8ad-9b01-b582-8f1f8061e8e1@redhat.com>

Laura, Mike,

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 01:14:42PM -0800, Laura Abbott wrote:
> On 12/18/18 11:42 AM, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> > On 12/17/18 1:57 PM, Laura Abbott wrote:
> > > On 12/17/18 10:29 AM, Ga�l PORTAY wrote:
> > > > Alan,
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:45:17AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Ga�l PORTAY wrote:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > > The second task wants to writeback/flush the pages through USB, which, I
> > > > > > assume, is due to the page migration. The usb-storage triggers a CMA allocation
> > > > > > but get locked in cma_alloc since the first task hold the mutex (It is a FAT
> > > > > > formatted partition, if it helps).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >      usb-storage     D    0   349      2 0x00000000
> > > > > >      Backtrace:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >      [<bf1c7550>] (usb_sg_wait [usbcore]) from [<bf2bd618>]
> > > > > > (usb_stor_bulk_transfer_sglist.part.2+0x80/0xdc [usb_storage]) r9:0001e000
> > > > > > r8:eca594ac r7:0001e000 r6:c0008200 r5:eca59514 r4:eca59488
> > > > > 
> > > > > It looks like there is a logical problem in the CMA allocator.  The
> > > > > call in usb_sg_wait() specifies GFP_NOIO, which is supposed to prevent
> > > > > allocations from blocking on any I/O operations.  Therefore we
> > > > > shouldn't be waiting for the CMA mutex.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Right.
> > > > 
> > > > > Perhaps the CMA allocator needs to drop the mutex while doing
> > > > > writebacks/flushes, or perhaps it needs to be reorganized some other
> > > > > way.  I don't know anything about it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does the CMA code have any maintainers who might need to know about
> > > > > this, or is it all handled by the MM maintainers?
> > > > 
> > > > I did not find maintainers neither for CMA nor MM.
> > > > 
> > > > That is why I have sent this mail to mm mailing list but to no one in
> > > > particular.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Last time I looked at this, we needed the cma_mutex for serialization
> > > so unless we want to rework that, I think we need to not use CMA in the
> > > writeback case (i.e. GFP_IO).
> > 
> > I am wondering if we still need to hold the cma_mutex while calling
> > alloc_contig_range().  Looking back at the history, it appears that
> > the reason for holding the mutex was to prevent two threads from operating
> > on the same pageblock.
> > 
> > Commit 2c7452a075d4 ("mm/page_isolation.c: make start_isolate_page_range()
> > fail if already isolated") will cause alloc_contig_range to return EBUSY
> > if two callers are attempting to operate on the same pageblock.  This was
> > added because memory hotplug as well as gigantac page allocation call
> > alloc_contig_range and could conflict with each other or cma.   cma_alloc
> > has logic to retry if EBUSY is returned.  Although, IIUC it assumes the
> > EBUSY is the result of specific pages being busy as opposed to someone
> > else operating on the pageblock.  Therefore, the retry logic to 'try a
> > different set of pages' is not what one  would/should attempt in the case
> > someone else is operating on the pageblock.
> > 
> > Would it be possible or make sense to remove the mutex and retry when
> > EBUSY?  Or, am I missing some other reason for holding the mutex.
> > 
> 
> I had forgotten that start_isolate_page_range had been updated to
> return -EBUSY. It looks like we would need to update
> the callback for migrate_pages in __alloc_contig_migrate_range
> since alloc_migrate_target by default will use __GFP_IO.
> So I _think_ if we update that to honor GFP_NOIO we could
> remove the mutex assuming the rest of migrate_pages honors
> it properly.
> 

I would be pleased to help and test things.

I had a look to the code but I do not know how to hack the callback.

Laura: Could you tell me more about how to update the callback to take
the GFP_NOIO flag into consideration properly?

Regards,
Gael

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From: "Gaël PORTAY" <gael.portay@collabora.com>
To: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, usb-storage@lists.one-eyed-alien.net
Subject: Re: [usb-storage] Re: cma: deadlock using usb-storage and fs
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 14:29:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181227192940.77p5gj3garpgahnm@archlinux.localdomain> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181227192940.EhdWTyRRSvjKi-6e_FQOwcdzDL9Xa1qfqyMsHLywcgs@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <da35de2c-b8ad-9b01-b582-8f1f8061e8e1@redhat.com>

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Laura, Mike,

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 01:14:42PM -0800, Laura Abbott wrote:
> On 12/18/18 11:42 AM, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> > On 12/17/18 1:57 PM, Laura Abbott wrote:
> > > On 12/17/18 10:29 AM, Gaël PORTAY wrote:
> > > > Alan,
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:45:17AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Gaël PORTAY wrote:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > > The second task wants to writeback/flush the pages through USB, which, I
> > > > > > assume, is due to the page migration. The usb-storage triggers a CMA allocation
> > > > > > but get locked in cma_alloc since the first task hold the mutex (It is a FAT
> > > > > > formatted partition, if it helps).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >      usb-storage     D    0   349      2 0x00000000
> > > > > >      Backtrace:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >      [<bf1c7550>] (usb_sg_wait [usbcore]) from [<bf2bd618>]
> > > > > > (usb_stor_bulk_transfer_sglist.part.2+0x80/0xdc [usb_storage]) r9:0001e000
> > > > > > r8:eca594ac r7:0001e000 r6:c0008200 r5:eca59514 r4:eca59488
> > > > > 
> > > > > It looks like there is a logical problem in the CMA allocator.  The
> > > > > call in usb_sg_wait() specifies GFP_NOIO, which is supposed to prevent
> > > > > allocations from blocking on any I/O operations.  Therefore we
> > > > > shouldn't be waiting for the CMA mutex.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Right.
> > > > 
> > > > > Perhaps the CMA allocator needs to drop the mutex while doing
> > > > > writebacks/flushes, or perhaps it needs to be reorganized some other
> > > > > way.  I don't know anything about it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does the CMA code have any maintainers who might need to know about
> > > > > this, or is it all handled by the MM maintainers?
> > > > 
> > > > I did not find maintainers neither for CMA nor MM.
> > > > 
> > > > That is why I have sent this mail to mm mailing list but to no one in
> > > > particular.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Last time I looked at this, we needed the cma_mutex for serialization
> > > so unless we want to rework that, I think we need to not use CMA in the
> > > writeback case (i.e. GFP_IO).
> > 
> > I am wondering if we still need to hold the cma_mutex while calling
> > alloc_contig_range().  Looking back at the history, it appears that
> > the reason for holding the mutex was to prevent two threads from operating
> > on the same pageblock.
> > 
> > Commit 2c7452a075d4 ("mm/page_isolation.c: make start_isolate_page_range()
> > fail if already isolated") will cause alloc_contig_range to return EBUSY
> > if two callers are attempting to operate on the same pageblock.  This was
> > added because memory hotplug as well as gigantac page allocation call
> > alloc_contig_range and could conflict with each other or cma.   cma_alloc
> > has logic to retry if EBUSY is returned.  Although, IIUC it assumes the
> > EBUSY is the result of specific pages being busy as opposed to someone
> > else operating on the pageblock.  Therefore, the retry logic to 'try a
> > different set of pages' is not what one  would/should attempt in the case
> > someone else is operating on the pageblock.
> > 
> > Would it be possible or make sense to remove the mutex and retry when
> > EBUSY?  Or, am I missing some other reason for holding the mutex.
> > 
> 
> I had forgotten that start_isolate_page_range had been updated to
> return -EBUSY. It looks like we would need to update
> the callback for migrate_pages in __alloc_contig_migrate_range
> since alloc_migrate_target by default will use __GFP_IO.
> So I _think_ if we update that to honor GFP_NOIO we could
> remove the mutex assuming the rest of migrate_pages honors
> it properly.
> 

I would be pleased to help and test things.

I had a look to the code but I do not know how to hack the callback.

Laura: Could you tell me more about how to update the callback to take
the GFP_NOIO flag into consideration properly?

Regards,
Gael


  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-27 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-16 22:21 Gaël PORTAY
2018-12-17 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-17 18:29   ` [usb-storage] " Gaël PORTAY
2018-12-17 21:57     ` Laura Abbott
2018-12-18 19:42       ` Mike Kravetz
2018-12-18 21:14         ` Laura Abbott
2018-12-27 19:29           ` Gaël PORTAY [this message]
2018-12-27 19:29             ` Gaël PORTAY
2019-01-07 18:13           ` Gaël PORTAY
2019-01-07 18:13             ` Gaël PORTAY
2019-01-08  2:06             ` Mike Kravetz
2019-01-11 13:55               ` Gaël PORTAY
2019-01-11 13:55                 ` Gaël PORTAY
2019-01-14 23:47                 ` Mike Kravetz
2019-01-03 18:54       ` Gaël PORTAY
2019-01-03 21:56         ` Gaël PORTAY
2019-01-03 21:56           ` Gaël PORTAY

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