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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, osalvador@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, page_alloc: clear zone_movable_pfn if the node doesn't have ZONE_MOVABLE
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:47:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181218144724.GM30879@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181218143943.ufuqzawibqyabzzl@master>

On Tue 18-12-18 14:39:43, Wei Yang wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 01:14:51PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >On Mon 17-12-18 14:18:02, Wei Yang wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:25:34AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> >On Sun 16-12-18 20:56:24, Wei Yang wrote:
> >> >> A non-zero zone_movable_pfn indicates this node has ZONE_MOVABLE, while
> >> >> current implementation doesn't comply with this rule when kernel
> >> >> parameter "kernelcore=" is used.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Current implementation doesn't harm the system, since the value in
> >> >> zone_movable_pfn is out of the range of current zone. While user would
> >> >> see this message during bootup, even that node doesn't has ZONE_MOVABLE.
> >> >> 
> >> >>     Movable zone start for each node
> >> >>       Node 0: 0x0000000080000000
> >> >
> >> >I am sorry but the above description confuses me more than it helps.
> >> >Could you start over again and describe the user visible problem, then
> >> >follow up with the udnerlying bug and finally continue with a proposed
> >> >fix?
> >> 
> >> Yep, how about this one:
> >> 
> >> For example, a machine with 8G RAM, 2 nodes with 4G on each, if we pass
> >
> >Did you mean 2G on each? Because your nodes do have 2GB each.
> >
> >> "kernelcore=2G" as kernel parameter, the dmesg looks like:
> >> 
> >>      Movable zone start for each node
> >>        Node 0: 0x0000000080000000
> >>        Node 1: 0x0000000100000000
> >> 
> >> This looks like both Node 0 and 1 has ZONE_MOVABLE, while the following
> >> dmesg shows only Node 1 has ZONE_MOVABLE.
> >
> >Well, the documentation says
> >	kernelcore=	[KNL,X86,IA-64,PPC]
> >			Format: nn[KMGTPE] | nn% | "mirror"
> >			This parameter specifies the amount of memory usable by
> >			the kernel for non-movable allocations.  The requested
> >			amount is spread evenly throughout all nodes in the
> >			system as ZONE_NORMAL.  The remaining memory is used for
> >			movable memory in its own zone, ZONE_MOVABLE.  In the
> >			event, a node is too small to have both ZONE_NORMAL and
> >			ZONE_MOVABLE, kernelcore memory will take priority and
> >			other nodes will have a larger ZONE_MOVABLE.
> 
> Yes, current behavior is a little bit different.

Then it is either a bug in implementation or documentation.

> 
> When you look at find_usable_zone_for_movable(), the ZONE_MOVABLE is in the
> highest ZONE. Which means if a node doesn't has the highest zone, all
> its memory belongs to kernelcore.

Each node can have all zones. DMA and DMA32 have address range specific
but there is always NORMAL zone to hold kernel memory irrespective of
the pfn range.

> 
> Looks like a design decision?
> 
> >
> >>      On node 0 totalpages: 524190
> >>        DMA zone: 64 pages used for memmap
> >>        DMA zone: 21 pages reserved
> >>        DMA zone: 3998 pages, LIFO batch:0
> >>        DMA32 zone: 8128 pages used for memmap
> >>        DMA32 zone: 520192 pages, LIFO batch:63
> >>      
> >>      On node 1 totalpages: 524255
> >>        DMA32 zone: 4096 pages used for memmap
> >>        DMA32 zone: 262111 pages, LIFO batch:63
> >>        Movable zone: 4096 pages used for memmap
> >>        Movable zone: 262144 pages, LIFO batch:63
> >
> >so assuming your really have 4GB in total and 2GB should be in kernel
> >zones then each node should get half of it to kernel zones and the
> >remaining 2G evenly distributed to movable zones. So something seems
> >broken here.
> 
> In case we really have this implemented. We will have following memory
> layout.
> 
> 
>     +---------+------+---------+--------+------------+
>     |DMA      |DMA32 |Movable  |DMA32   |Movable     |
>     +---------+------+---------+--------+------------+
>     |<        Node 0          >|<      Node 1       >|
> 
> This means we have none-monotonic increasing zone.
> 
> Is this what we expect now? If this is, we really have someting broken.

Absolutely. Each node can have all zones as mentioned above.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-18 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-16 12:56 Wei Yang
2018-12-17 10:25 ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-17 14:18   ` Wei Yang
2018-12-18 12:14     ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-18 14:39       ` Wei Yang
2018-12-18 14:47         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-12-18 20:27           ` Wei Yang
2018-12-19  6:56             ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-19 12:56               ` Wei Yang

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