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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/17] debugobjects: Move printk out of db lock critical sections
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 17:02:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181122160250.lxyfzsybfwskrh54@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181122020422.GA3441@jagdpanzerIV>

On Thu 2018-11-22 11:04:22, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (11/21/18 11:49), Waiman Long wrote:
> [..]
> > >  	case ODEBUG_STATE_ACTIVE:
> > > -		debug_print_object(obj, "init");
> > >  		state = obj->state;
> > >  		raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&db->lock, flags);
> > > +		debug_print_object(obj, "init");
> > >  		debug_object_fixup(descr->fixup_init, addr, state);
> > >  		return;
> > >  
> > >  	case ODEBUG_STATE_DESTROYED:
> > > -		debug_print_object(obj, "init");
> > > +		debug_printobj = true;
> > >  		break;
> > >  	default:
> > >  		break;
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > >  	raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&db->lock, flags);
> > > +	if (debug_chkstack)
> > > +		debug_object_is_on_stack(addr, onstack);
> > > +	if (debug_printobj)
> > > +		debug_print_object(obj, "init");
> > >
> [..]
> >
> > As a side note, one of the test systems that I used generated a
> > debugobjects splat in the bootup process and the system hanged
> > afterward. Applying this patch alone fix the hanging problem and the
> > system booted up successfully. So it is not really a good idea to call
> > printk() while holding a raw spinlock.

Please, was the system hang reproducible? I wonder if it was a
deadlock described by Sergey below.

The commit message is right. printk() might take too long and
cause softlockup or livelock. But it does not explain why
the system could competely hang.

Also note that prinkt() should not longer block a single process
indefinitely thanks to the commit dbdda842fe96f8932 ("printk:
Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes").

> Some serial consoles call mod_timer(). So what we could have with the
> debug objects enabled was
> 
> 	mod_timer()
> 	 lock_timer_base()
> 	  debug_activate()
> 	   printk()
> 	    call_console_drivers()
> 	     foo_console()
> 	      mod_timer()
> 	       lock_timer_base()       << deadlock

Anyway, I wonder what was the primary motivation for this patch.
Was it the system hang? Or was it lockdep report about nesting
two terminal locks: db->lock, pool_lock with logbuf_lock?

Printk is problematic. It might delay any atomic context
where it is used. I would like to better understand the
problem here before we start spread printk-related hacks.

Best Regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-22 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-19 18:55 [PATCH v2 00/17] locking/lockdep: Add a new class of terminal locks Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] locking/lockdep: Remove version from lock_class structure Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] locking/lockdep: Rework lockdep_set_novalidate_class() Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] locking/lockdep: Add a new terminal lock type Waiman Long
2018-12-07  9:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] locking/lockdep: Add DEFINE_TERMINAL_SPINLOCK() and related macros Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] printk: Mark logbuf_lock & console_owner_lock as terminal locks Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] debugobjects: Mark pool_lock as a terminal lock Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] debugobjects: Move printk out of db lock critical sections Waiman Long
2018-11-21 16:49   ` Waiman Long
2018-11-22  2:04     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-22 10:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-23  2:40         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-23 11:48           ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-26  4:57             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-29 13:09               ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-22 16:02       ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2018-11-22 20:29         ` Waiman Long
2018-11-23 11:36           ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-22 19:57       ` Waiman Long
2018-11-23  2:35         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-23 11:20         ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-07  9:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] locking/lockdep: Add support for nestable terminal locks Waiman Long
2018-12-07  9:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-07  9:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] debugobjects: Make object hash locks " Waiman Long
2018-11-22 15:33   ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-22 20:17     ` Waiman Long
2018-11-23  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-07  9:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] lib/stackdepot: Make depot_lock a terminal spinlock Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] locking/rwsem: Mark rwsem.wait_lock as a terminal lock Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] cgroup: Mark the rstat percpu lock as terminal Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] mm/kasan: Make quarantine_lock a terminal lock Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] dma-debug: Mark free_entries_lock as terminal Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] kernfs: Mark kernfs_open_node_lock as terminal lock Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] delay_acct: Mark task's delays->lock as terminal spinlock Waiman Long
2018-11-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] locking/lockdep: Check raw/non-raw locking conflicts Waiman Long

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