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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Randomize free memory
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 15:44:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181018134402.GE18839@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4i38LAh1-bDE5cAAV=pAWMQeOYSmWF7ucM+Qt2O+GYMWw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 11-10-18 11:03:07, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:56 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
[...]
> > In any case, I believe the change itself is not controversial as long it
> > is opt-in (potentially autotuned based on specific HW)
> 
> Do you mean disable shuffling on systems that don't have a
> memory-side-cache unless / until we can devise a security benefit
> curve relative to shuffle-order? The former I can do, the latter, I'm
> at a loss.

Yes, enable when the HW requires that for whatever reason and make add a
global knob to enable it for those that might find it useful for
security reasons with a clear cost/benefit description. Not "this is tha
security thingy enable and feel safe(r)"
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-18 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-04  2:15 Dan Williams
2018-10-04  2:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: Shuffle initial " Dan Williams
2018-10-04  7:48   ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-04 16:51     ` Dan Williams
2018-10-09 11:12       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-09 17:36         ` Dan Williams
2018-10-04  2:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm: Move buddy list manipulations into helpers Dan Williams
2018-10-04  2:15 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm: Maintain randomization of page free lists Dan Williams
2018-10-04  7:44 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Randomize free memory Michal Hocko
2018-10-04 16:44   ` Dan Williams
2018-10-06 17:01     ` Dan Williams
2018-10-09 11:22     ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-09 17:34       ` Dan Williams
2018-10-10  8:47         ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-11  0:13           ` Dan Williams
2018-10-11 11:52             ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-11 18:03               ` Dan Williams
2018-10-18 13:44                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-10-12  8:22               ` Mel Gorman

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