From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: speed up mremap by 500x on large regions
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:50:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181013175039.GB213522@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKOZueu2wdkeUFYLQ8qE48yJs1_uRz-9RVJRkp==CL=jp=Q8+g@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 07:25:08PM -0700, Daniel Colascione wrote:
[...]
> > But anyway, I think this runtime detection thing is not needed. THP is
> > actually expected to be as fast as this anyway, so if that's available then
> > we should already be as fast.
>
> Ah, I think the commit message is confusing. (Or else I'm misreading
> the patch now.) It's not quite that we're disabling the feature when
> THP is enabled anywhere, but rather that we use the move_huge_pmd path
> for huge PMDs and use the new code only for non-huge PMDs. (Right?) If
> that's the case, the commit message shouldn't say "Incase THP is
> enabled, the optimization is skipped". Even if THP is enabled on a
> system generally, we might use the new PMD-moving code for mapping
> types that don't support THP-ization, right?
That is true. Ok, I guess I can update the commit message to be more accurate
about that.
> > This is for non-THP where THP cannot be enabled
> > and there is still room for some improvement. Most/all architectures will be
> > just fine with this. This flag is more of a safety-net type of thing where in
> > the future if there is this one or two weird architectures that don't play
> > well, then they can turn it off at the architecture level by not selecting
> > the flag. See my latest patches for the per-architecture compile-time
> > controls. Ideally we'd like to blanket turn it on on all, but this is just
> > playing it extra safe as Kirill and me were discussing on other threads.
>
> Sure. I'm just pointing out that the 500x performance different turns
> the operation into a qualitatively different feature, so if we expect
> to actually ship a mainstream architecture without support for this
> thing, we should make it explicit. If we're not, we shouldn't.
We can make it explicit by enabling it in such a mainstream architecture is
my point. Also if the optimization is not doing what its supposed to, then
userspace will also just know by measuring the time.
thanks,
- Joel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-13 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-12 1:37 [PATCH v2 1/2] treewide: remove unused address argument from pte_alloc functions Joel Fernandes (Google)
2018-10-12 1:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: speed up mremap by 500x on large regions Joel Fernandes (Google)
2018-10-12 11:30 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-12 11:36 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-12 12:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-12 13:19 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-12 16:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-12 21:33 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-12 18:18 ` David Miller
2018-10-13 1:35 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-13 1:39 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-13 1:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-13 1:54 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-13 2:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-13 2:25 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-13 17:50 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2018-10-12 18:02 ` David Miller
2018-10-12 14:09 ` Anton Ivanov
2018-10-12 14:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-12 14:48 ` Anton Ivanov
2018-10-12 16:42 ` Anton Ivanov
2018-10-12 16:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-12 16:58 ` Anton Ivanov
2018-10-12 17:06 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-12 21:40 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-13 6:10 ` Anton Ivanov
2018-10-15 7:10 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-10-15 8:18 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2018-10-16 2:08 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-12 11:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] treewide: remove unused address argument from pte_alloc functions Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-10-12 16:37 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-12 13:56 ` Anton Ivanov
2018-10-12 16:34 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-12 16:38 ` Julia Lawall
2018-10-12 16:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-12 18:51 ` SF Markus Elfring
2018-10-12 19:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-13 9:22 ` SF Markus Elfring
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