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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	john.hubbard@gmail.com, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:49:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181011084929.GB8418@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181010164541.ec4bf53f5a9e4ba6e5b52a21@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed 10-10-18 16:45:41, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 17:42:09 -0700 John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Also, maintainability.  What happens if someone now uses put_page() by
> > > mistake?  Kernel fails in some mysterious fashion?  How can we prevent
> > > this from occurring as code evolves?  Is there a cheap way of detecting
> > > this bug at runtime?
> > > 
> > 
> > It might be possible to do a few run-time checks, such as "does page that came 
> > back to put_user_page() have the correct flags?", but it's harder (without 
> > having a dedicated page flag) to detect the other direction: "did someone page 
> > in a get_user_pages page, to put_page?"
> > 
> > As Jan said in his reply, converting get_user_pages (and put_user_page) to 
> > work with a new data type that wraps struct pages, would solve it, but that's
> > an awfully large change. Still...given how much of a mess this can turn into 
> > if it's wrong, I wonder if it's worth it--maybe? 
> 
> This is a real worry.  If someone uses a mistaken put_page() then how
> will that bug manifest at runtime?  Under what set of circumstances
> will the kernel trigger the bug?

At runtime such bug will manifest as a page that can never be evicted from
memory. We could warn in put_page() if page reference count drops below
bare minimum for given user pin count which would be able to catch some
issues but it won't be 100% reliable. So at this point I'm more leaning
towards making get_user_pages() return a different type than just
struct page * to make it much harder for refcount to go wrong...

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-11  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-08 21:16 [PATCH v4 0/3] get_user_pages*() and RDMA: first steps john.hubbard
2018-10-08 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: get_user_pages: consolidate error handling john.hubbard
2018-10-09  0:05   ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-08 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions john.hubbard
2018-10-09  0:14   ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-09  8:30     ` Jan Kara
2018-10-09 23:20       ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-10  0:32         ` John Hubbard
2018-10-10 23:43           ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-10  0:42     ` John Hubbard
2018-10-10  8:59       ` Jan Kara
2018-10-10 23:23         ` John Hubbard
2018-10-11  8:42           ` Jan Kara
2018-10-10 23:45       ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-11  8:49         ` Jan Kara [this message]
2018-10-11 13:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-10-12  1:23             ` John Hubbard
2018-10-12  3:53               ` John Hubbard
2018-10-18 10:19                 ` Jan Kara
2018-11-05  7:25                   ` John Hubbard
2018-10-22 19:43               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-05  7:17                 ` John Hubbard
2018-11-05  8:37                   ` Jan Kara
2018-10-08 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] infiniband/mm: convert put_page() to put_user_page*() john.hubbard
2018-10-09  9:52   ` kbuild test robot

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