From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
john.hubbard@gmail.com, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:49:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181011084929.GB8418@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181010164541.ec4bf53f5a9e4ba6e5b52a21@linux-foundation.org>
On Wed 10-10-18 16:45:41, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 17:42:09 -0700 John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> > > Also, maintainability. What happens if someone now uses put_page() by
> > > mistake? Kernel fails in some mysterious fashion? How can we prevent
> > > this from occurring as code evolves? Is there a cheap way of detecting
> > > this bug at runtime?
> > >
> >
> > It might be possible to do a few run-time checks, such as "does page that came
> > back to put_user_page() have the correct flags?", but it's harder (without
> > having a dedicated page flag) to detect the other direction: "did someone page
> > in a get_user_pages page, to put_page?"
> >
> > As Jan said in his reply, converting get_user_pages (and put_user_page) to
> > work with a new data type that wraps struct pages, would solve it, but that's
> > an awfully large change. Still...given how much of a mess this can turn into
> > if it's wrong, I wonder if it's worth it--maybe?
>
> This is a real worry. If someone uses a mistaken put_page() then how
> will that bug manifest at runtime? Under what set of circumstances
> will the kernel trigger the bug?
At runtime such bug will manifest as a page that can never be evicted from
memory. We could warn in put_page() if page reference count drops below
bare minimum for given user pin count which would be able to catch some
issues but it won't be 100% reliable. So at this point I'm more leaning
towards making get_user_pages() return a different type than just
struct page * to make it much harder for refcount to go wrong...
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-11 8:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-08 21:16 [PATCH v4 0/3] get_user_pages*() and RDMA: first steps john.hubbard
2018-10-08 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: get_user_pages: consolidate error handling john.hubbard
2018-10-09 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-08 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions john.hubbard
2018-10-09 0:14 ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-09 8:30 ` Jan Kara
2018-10-09 23:20 ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-10 0:32 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-10 23:43 ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-10 0:42 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-10 8:59 ` Jan Kara
2018-10-10 23:23 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-11 8:42 ` Jan Kara
2018-10-10 23:45 ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-11 8:49 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2018-10-11 13:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-10-12 1:23 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-12 3:53 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-18 10:19 ` Jan Kara
2018-11-05 7:25 ` John Hubbard
2018-10-22 19:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-11-05 7:17 ` John Hubbard
2018-11-05 8:37 ` Jan Kara
2018-10-08 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] infiniband/mm: convert put_page() to put_user_page*() john.hubbard
2018-10-09 9:52 ` kbuild test robot
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