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From: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
To: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@suse.com, rientjes@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm/sparse: add likely to mem_section[root] check in sparse_index_init()
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 01:38:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180909013807.6ux4cidt3nehofz5@master> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180903222732.v52zdya2c2hkff7n@master>

On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 10:27:32PM +0000, Wei Yang wrote:
>On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:07:17PM +0800, Wei Yang wrote:
>>On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 05:11:48PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>>On 08/23/2018 06:07 AM, Wei Yang wrote:
>>>> --- a/mm/sparse.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/sparse.c
>>>> @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@ static int __meminit sparse_index_init(unsigned long section_nr, int nid)
>>>>  	unsigned long root = SECTION_NR_TO_ROOT(section_nr);
>>>>  	struct mem_section *section;
>>>>  
>>>> -	if (mem_section[root])
>>>> +	if (likely(mem_section[root]))
>>>>  		return -EEXIST;
>>>
>>>We could add likely()/unlikely() to approximately a billion if()s around
>>>the kernel if we felt like it.  We don't because it's messy and it
>>>actually takes away choices from the compiler.
>>>
>>>Please don't send patches like this unless you have some *actual*
>>>analysis that shows the benefit of the patch.  Performance numbers are best.
>>
>
>Hi, 
>
>Is my analysis reasonable? Or which part is not valid?
>

Would someone share some idea on my analysis?

>>Thanks all for your comments, Michal, Dave and Oscar.
>>
>>Well, maybe I took it for granted, so let me put more words on this. To be
>>honest, my analysis maybe partially effective, so if the cost is higher than
>>the gain, please let me know.
>>
>>Below is my analysis and test result for this patch.
>>------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>During bootup, the call flow looks like this.
>>
>>    sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions()
>>        memory_present()
>>            sparse_index_init()
>>
>>sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() iterates on pfn continuously for
>>the whole system RAM, which leads to sparse_index_init() will iterate
>>section_nr continuously. Usually, we don't expect many large holes, right?
>>
>>Each time when mem_section[root] is null, SECTIONS_PER_ROOT number of
>>mem_section will be allocated. This means, for SECTIONS_PER_ROOT number of
>>check, only the first check is false. So the possibility to be false is 
>>(1 / SECTIONS_PER_ROOT).
>>
>>SECTIONS_PER_ROOT is defined as (PAGE_SIZE / sizeof (struct mem_section)).
>>
>>On my x86_64 machine, PAGE_SIZE is 4KB and mem_section is 16B.
>>
>>    SECTIONS_PER_ROOT = 4K / 16 = 256.
>>
>>So the check for mem_section[root] is (1 / 256) chance to be invalid and
>>(255 / 256) valid. In theory, this value seems to be a "likely" to me.
>>
>>In practice, when the system RAM is multiple times of
>>((1 << SECTION_SIZE_BITS) * SECTIONS_PER_ROOT), the "likely" chance is
>>(255 / 256), otherwise the chance would be less. 
>>
>>On my x86_64 machine, SECTION_SIZE_BITS is defined to 27.
>>
>>    ((1 << SECTION_SIZE_BITS) * SECTIONS_PER_ROOT) = 32GB
>>
>>          System RAM size       32G         16G        8G         4G
>>      Possibility          (255 / 256) (127 / 128) (63 / 64)  (31 / 32)
>>
>>Generally, in my mind, if we iterate pfn continuously and there is no large
>>holes, the check on mem_section[root] is likely to be true.
>>
>>At last, here is the test result on my 4G virtual machine. I added printk
>>before and after sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() and tested three
>>times with/without "likely".
>>
>>                without      with
>>     Elapsed   0.000252     0.000250   -0.8%
>>
>>The benefit seems to be too small on a 4G virtual machine or even this is not
>>stable. Not sure we can see some visible effect on a 32G machine.
>>
>>
>>Well, above is all my analysis and test result. I did the optimization based
>>on my own experience and understanding. If this is not qualified, I am very
>>glad to hear from your statement, so that I would learn more from your
>>experience.
>>
>>Thanks all for your comments again :-)
>> 
>>
>>-- 
>>Wei Yang
>>Help you, Help me
>
>-- 
>Wei Yang
>Help you, Help me

-- 
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-09  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23 13:07 [PATCH 0/3] trivial code refine for sparsemem Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/sparse: add likely to mem_section[root] check in sparse_index_init() Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:13   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 22:57     ` Wei Yang
2018-08-24  7:31       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24  0:11   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-24 15:07     ` Wei Yang
2018-09-03 22:27       ` Wei Yang
2018-09-09  1:38         ` Wei Yang [this message]
2018-09-10 20:30           ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-11 15:00             ` Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/sparse: expand the CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_EXTREME range in __nr_to_section() Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:21   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 23:03     ` Wei Yang
2018-08-24  0:09     ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-24 15:24       ` Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/sparse: use __highest_present_section_nr as the boundary for pfn check Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:25   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 14:00     ` Oscar Salvador
2018-08-23 19:17       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 20:52         ` Oscar Salvador
2018-08-24  0:15   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-24 18:11     ` Wei Yang

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