From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:08:59 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180824150858.GB4244@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180824123341.GN29735@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 02:33:41PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 24-08-18 14:18:44, Christian Konig wrote:
> > Am 24.08.2018 um 14:03 schrieb Michal Hocko:
> > > On Fri 24-08-18 13:57:52, Christian Konig wrote:
> > > > Am 24.08.2018 um 13:52 schrieb Michal Hocko:
> > > > > On Fri 24-08-18 13:43:16, Christian Konig wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > > > That won't work like this there might be multiple
> > > > > > invalidate_range_start()/invalidate_range_end() pairs open at the same time.
> > > > > > E.g. the lock might be taken recursively and that is illegal for a
> > > > > > rw_semaphore.
> > > > > I am not sure I follow. Are you saying that one invalidate_range might
> > > > > trigger another one from the same path?
> > > > No, but what can happen is:
> > > >
> > > > invalidate_range_start(A,B);
> > > > invalidate_range_start(C,D);
> > > > ...
> > > > invalidate_range_end(C,D);
> > > > invalidate_range_end(A,B);
> > > >
> > > > Grabbing the read lock twice would be illegal in this case.
> > > I am sorry but I still do not follow. What is the context the two are
> > > called from?
> >
> > I don't have the slightest idea.
> >
> > > Can you give me an example. I simply do not see it in the
> > > code, mostly because I am not familiar with it.
> >
> > I'm neither.
> >
> > We stumbled over that by pure observation and after discussing the problem
> > with Jerome came up with this solution.
> >
> > No idea where exactly that case comes from, but I can confirm that it indeed
> > happens.
>
> Thiking about it some more, I can imagine that a notifier callback which
> performs an allocation might trigger a memory reclaim and that in turn
> might trigger a notifier to be invoked and recurse. But notifier
> shouldn't really allocate memory. They are called from deep MM code
> paths and this would be extremely deadlock prone. Maybe Jerome can come
> up some more realistic scenario. If not then I would propose to simplify
> the locking here. We have lockdep to catch self deadlocks and it is
> always better to handle a specific issue rather than having a code
> without a clear indication how it can recurse.
Multiple concurrent mmu notifier, for overlapping range or not, is
common (each concurrent threads can trigger some). So you might have
multiple invalidate_range_start() in flight for same mm and thus might
complete in different order (invalidate_range_end()). IIRC this is
what this lock was trying to protect against.
I can't think of a reason for recursive mmu notifier call right now.
I will ponder see if i remember something about it.
Cheers,
Jerome
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-24 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-16 11:50 Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 23:12 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-17 4:03 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-17 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-20 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-23 8:43 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-19 9:12 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-21 0:09 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-23 7:03 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 7:11 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 8:11 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:17 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 19:53 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-25 6:17 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 21:07 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-25 6:13 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 10:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 11:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 11:43 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 11:52 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 11:57 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 12:03 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 12:18 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 12:33 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 12:52 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:01 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:10 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:24 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:28 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:44 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:52 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-26 8:40 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-27 7:41 ` Christian König
2018-09-06 22:46 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 15:08 ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2018-08-24 11:36 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:02 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 13:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 14:52 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 15:12 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 16:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 17:33 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 16:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 14:40 ` Jerome Glisse
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