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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: thp: fix transparent_hugepage/defrag = madvise || always
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:07:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180822110737.GK29735@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180822090214.GF29735@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed 22-08-18 11:02:14, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 21-08-18 17:40:49, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 01:50:57PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > I really detest a new gfp flag for one time semantic that is muddy as
> > > hell.
> > 
> > Well there's no way to fix this other than to prevent reclaim to run,
> > if you still want to give a chance to page faults to obtain THP under
> > MADV_HUGEPAGE in the page fault without waiting minutes or hours for
> > khugpaged to catch up with it.
> 
> I do not get that part. Why should caller even care about reclaim vs.
> compaction. How can you even make an educated guess what makes more
> sense? This should be fully controlled by the allocator path. The caller
> should only care about how hard to try. It's been some time since I've
> looked but we used to have a gfp flags to tell that for THP allocations
> as well.

In other words, why do we even try to swap out when allocating costly
high order page for requests which do not insist to try really hard?

I mean why don't we do something like this?
---
diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
index 03822f86f288..41005d3d4c2d 100644
--- a/mm/vmscan.c
+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
@@ -3071,6 +3071,14 @@ unsigned long try_to_free_pages(struct zonelist *zonelist, int order,
 	if (throttle_direct_reclaim(sc.gfp_mask, zonelist, nodemask))
 		return 1;
 
+	/*
+	 * If we are allocating a costly order and do not insist on trying really
+	 * hard then we should keep the reclaim impact at minimum. So only
+	 * focus on easily reclaimable memory.
+	 */
+	if (order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL))
+		sc.may_swap = sc.may_unmap = 0;
+
 	trace_mm_vmscan_direct_reclaim_begin(order,
 				sc.may_writepage,
 				sc.gfp_mask,
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-22 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-20  3:22 [PATCH 0/2] fix for "pathological THP behavior" Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20  3:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: thp: consolidate policy_nodemask call Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20  3:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: thp: fix transparent_hugepage/defrag = madvise || always Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20  3:26   ` [PATCH 0/1] fix for "pathological THP behavior" v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20  3:26     ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: thp: fix transparent_hugepage/defrag = madvise || always Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 12:35   ` [PATCH 2/2] " Zi Yan
2018-08-20 15:32     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-21 11:50   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 21:40     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22  9:02       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 11:07         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-08-22 14:24           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22 14:45             ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:24               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-23 10:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:52         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-23 10:52           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28  7:53             ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28  8:18               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28  8:54                 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-08-29 11:11                   ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
     [not found]                 ` <D5F4A33C-0A37-495C-9468-D6866A862097@cs.rutgers.edu>
2018-08-29 14:28                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 14:35                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 15:22                       ` Zi Yan
2018-08-29 15:47                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 16:06                           ` Zi Yan
2018-08-29 16:25                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 19:24                               ` [PATCH] mm, thp: relax __GFP_THISNODE for MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 22:54                                 ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30  7:00                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-30 13:22                                     ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30 13:45                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-30 14:02                                         ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30 16:19                                           ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-08-30 16:40                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-05  3:44                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-09-05  7:08                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 11:10                                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:16                                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:25                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 12:35                                                       ` Zi Yan
2018-09-06 10:59                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:17                                     ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30  6:47                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 11:18                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:27                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12 17:29                                 ` Mel Gorman
2018-09-17  6:11                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-17  7:04                                     ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-09-17  9:32                                       ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-09-17 11:27                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-20 11:58 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix for "pathological THP behavior" Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-08-20 15:19   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-21 15:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-21 17:26       ` David Rientjes
2018-08-21 22:18         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-21 22:05       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22  9:24       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:56         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 19:06   ` Yang Shi
2018-08-20 23:24     ` Andrea Arcangeli

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