From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
kernel-team@fb.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] introduce memory.oom.group
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:59:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180808105909.GJ27972@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1808071519030.237317@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Tue 07-08-18 15:34:58, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018, Roman Gushchin wrote:
>
> > > In a cgroup-aware oom killer world, yes, we need the ability to specify
> > > that the usage of the entire subtree should be compared as a single
> > > entity with other cgroups. That is necessary for user subtrees but may
> > > not be necessary for top-level cgroups depending on how you structure your
> > > unified cgroup hierarchy. So it needs to be configurable, as you suggest,
> > > and you are correct it can be different than oom.group.
> > >
> > > That's not the only thing we need though, as I'm sure you were expecting
> > > me to say :)
> > >
> > > We need the ability to preserve existing behavior, i.e. process based and
> > > not cgroup aware, for subtrees so that our users who have clear
> > > expectations and tune their oom_score_adj accordingly based on how the oom
> > > killer has always chosen processes for oom kill do not suddenly regress.
> >
> > Isn't the combination of oom.group=0 and oom.evaluate_together=1 describing
> > this case? This basically means that if memcg is selected as target,
> > the process inside will be selected using traditional per-process approach.
> >
>
> No, that would overload the policy and mechanism. We want the ability to
> consider user-controlled subtrees as a single entity for comparison with
> other user subtrees to select which subtree to target. This does not
> imply that users want their entire subtree oom killed.
Yeah, that's why oom.group == 0, no?
Anyway, can we separate this discussion from the current series please?
We are getting more and more tangent.
Or do you still see the current state to be not mergeable?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-08 10:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-30 18:00 Roman Gushchin
2018-07-30 18:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: introduce mem_cgroup_put() helper Roman Gushchin
2018-07-31 8:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-31 14:58 ` Shakeel Butt
2018-08-01 5:53 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-01 17:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2018-07-30 18:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm, oom: refactor oom_kill_process() Roman Gushchin
2018-08-01 17:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2018-07-30 18:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm, oom: introduce memory.oom.group Roman Gushchin
2018-07-31 9:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-01 1:14 ` Roman Gushchin
2018-08-01 5:55 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-01 17:48 ` Johannes Weiner
2018-08-01 17:50 ` Johannes Weiner
2018-07-31 1:49 ` [PATCH 0/3] " David Rientjes
2018-07-31 15:54 ` Johannes Weiner
2018-07-31 23:51 ` Roman Gushchin
2018-08-01 21:51 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-01 22:47 ` Roman Gushchin
2018-08-06 21:34 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-07 0:30 ` Roman Gushchin
2018-08-07 22:34 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-08 10:59 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-08-09 20:10 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-10 7:03 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-19 23:26 ` cgroup aware oom killer (was Re: [PATCH 0/3] introduce memory.oom.group) David Rientjes
2018-08-20 19:05 ` Roman Gushchin
2018-08-02 8:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] introduce memory.oom.group Michal Hocko
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