From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: PF_WQ_WORKER threads must sleep at should_reclaim_retry().
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 08:44:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180730154424.GG1206094@devbig004.ftw2.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0018ac3b-94ee-5f09-e4e0-df53d2cbc925@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Hello,
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:25:04AM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> WQ_MEM_RECLAIM guarantees that "struct task_struct" is preallocated. But
> WQ_MEM_RECLAIM does not guarantee that the pending work is started as soon
> as an item was queued. Same rule applies to both WQ_MEM_RECLAIM workqueues
> and !WQ_MEM_RECLAIM workqueues regarding when to start a pending work (i.e.
> when schedule_timeout_*() is called).
>
> Is this correct?
WQ_MEM_RECLAIM guarantees that there's always gonna exist at least one
kworker running the workqueue. But all per-cpu kworkers are subject
to concurrency limiting execution - ie. if there are any per-cpu
actively running on a cpu, no futher kworkers will be scheduled.
> > We can add timeout mechanism to workqueue so that it
> > kicks off other kworkers if one of them is in running state for too
> > long, but idk, if there's an indefinite busy loop condition in kernel
> > threads, we really should get rid of them and hung task watchdog is
> > pretty effective at finding these cases (at least with preemption
> > disabled).
>
> Currently the page allocator has a path which can loop forever with
> only cond_resched().
Yeah, workqueue can choke on things like that and kthread indefinitely
busy looping doesn't do anybody any good.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-30 15:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-26 11:06 Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-26 11:39 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-27 15:47 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 9:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:34 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 14:46 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:54 ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-30 15:25 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 15:44 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2018-07-30 18:51 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 19:10 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 21:01 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31 5:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-31 10:47 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31 11:15 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-31 11:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31 11:55 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-02 22:05 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-03 6:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 21:07 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-22 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 20:06 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-23 21:00 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-23 22:45 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-24 0:31 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 13:20 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 13:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-05 13:53 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 14:04 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 1:00 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06 5:57 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 6:22 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06 7:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 19:14 ` Tejun Heo
2018-08-27 13:51 Michal Hocko
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