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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: PF_WQ_WORKER threads must sleep at should_reclaim_retry().
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:46:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180730144647.GX24267@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9158a23e-7793-7735-e35c-acd540ca59bf@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

On Mon 30-07-18 23:34:23, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2018/07/30 18:32, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > This one is waiting for draining and we are in mm_percpu_wq WQ context
> > which has its rescuer so no other activity can block us for ever. So
> > this certainly shouldn't deadlock. It can be dead slow but well, this is
> > what you will get when your shoot your system to death.
> 
> We need schedule_timeout_*() to allow such WQ_MEM_RECLAIM workqueues to wake up. (Tejun,
> is my understanding correct?) Lack of schedule_timeout_*() does block WQ_MEM_RECLAIM
> workqueues forever.

Hmm. This doesn't match my understanding of what WQ_MEM_RECLAIM actually
guarantees. If you are right then the whole thing sounds quite fragile
to me TBH.

Anyway we would at least have an explanation for what you are seeing.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-30 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-26 11:06 Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-26 11:39 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-27 15:47   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30  9:32     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:34       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 14:46         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-07-30 14:54           ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-30 15:25             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 15:44               ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-30 18:51                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 19:10                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 21:01                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31  5:09                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-31 10:47                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31 11:15                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-31 11:30                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31 11:55                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-02 22:05                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-03  6:16                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 21:07                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-22  7:32                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 20:06                               ` David Rientjes
2018-08-23 21:00                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-23 22:45                                   ` David Rientjes
2018-08-24  0:31                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 13:20                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 13:40                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-05 13:53                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 14:04                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06  1:00                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06  5:57                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06  6:22                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06  7:03                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 19:14                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-08-27 13:51 Michal Hocko

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