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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Pavel Tatashin" <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Souptick Joarder" <jrdr.linux@gmail.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Oscar Salvador" <osalvador@techadventures.net>,
	"YASUAKI ISHIMATSU" <yasu.isimatu@gmail.com>,
	"Mathieu Malaterre" <malat@debian.org>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Joonsoo Kim" <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm: inititalize struct pages when adding a section
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 14:05:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180730120529.GN24267@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6cc416e7-522c-a67e-2706-f37aadff084f@redhat.com>

On Mon 30-07-18 13:53:06, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 30.07.2018 13:30, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 27-07-18 18:54:54, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >> Right now, struct pages are inititalized when memory is onlined, not
> >> when it is added (since commit d0dc12e86b31 ("mm/memory_hotplug: optimize
> >> memory hotplug")).
> >>
> >> remove_memory() will call arch_remove_memory(). Here, we usually access
> >> the struct page to get the zone of the pages.
> >>
> >> So effectively, we access stale struct pages in case we remove memory that
> >> was never onlined. So let's simply inititalize them earlier, when the
> >> memory is added. We only have to take care of updating the zone once we
> >> know it. We can use a dummy zone for that purpose.
> > 
> > I have considered something like this when I was reworking memory
> > hotplug to not associate struct pages with zone before onlining and I
> > considered this to be rather fragile. I would really not like to get
> > back to that again if possible.
> > 
> >> So effectively, all pages will already be initialized and set to
> >> reserved after memory was added but before it was onlined (and even the
> >> memblock is added). We only inititalize pages once, to not degrade
> >> performance.
> > 
> > To be honest, I would rather see d0dc12e86b31 reverted. It is late in
> > the release cycle and if the patch is buggy then it should be reverted
> > rather than worked around. I found the optimization not really
> > convincing back then and this is still the case TBH.
> > 
> 
> If I am not wrong, that's already broken in 4.17, no? What about that?

Ohh, I thought this was merged in 4.18.
$ git describe --contains d0dc12e86b31 --match="v*"
v4.17-rc1~99^2~44

proves me wrong. This means that the fix is not so urgent as I thought.
If you can figure out a reasonable fix then it should be preferable to
the revert.

Fake zone sounds too hackish to me though.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-30 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-27 16:54 David Hildenbrand
2018-07-27 17:25 ` Pavel Tatashin
2018-07-27 18:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 11:30 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 11:53   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 12:05     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-07-30 12:11       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 13:30         ` Pavel Tatashin
2018-07-30 13:51           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 14:10             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:42               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 14:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 15:03                   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 15:45                     ` Pavel Tatashin

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