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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	gthelen@google.com
Subject: Re: cgroup-aware OOM killer, how to move forward
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 15:26:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180724132640.GL28386@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180724130836.GH1934745@devbig577.frc2.facebook.com>

On Tue 24-07-18 06:08:36, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 09:32:30AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > > There's no reason to put any
> > > restrictions on what each cgroup can configure.  The only thing which
> > > matters is is that the effective behavior is what the highest in the
> > > ancestry configures, and, at the system level, it'd conceptually map
> > > to panic_on_oom.
> > 
> > Hmm, so do we inherit group_oom? If not, how do we prevent from
> > unexpected behavior?
> 
> Hmm... I guess we're debating two options here.  Please consider the
> following hierarchy.
> 
>       R
>       |
>       A (group oom == 1)
>      / \
>     B   C
>     |
>     D
> 
> 1. No matter what B, C or D sets, as long as A sets group oom, any oom
>    kill inside A's subtree kills the entire subtree.
> 
> 2. A's group oom policy applies iff the source of the OOM is either at
>    or above A - ie. iff the OOM is system-wide or caused by memory.max
>    of A.
> 
> In #1, it doesn't matter what B, C or D sets, so it's kinda moot to
> discuss whether they inherit A's setting or not.  A's is, if set,
> always overriding.  In #2, what B, C or D sets matters if they also
> set their own memory.max, so there's no reason for them to inherit
> anything.
> 
> I'm actually okay with either option.  #2 is more flexible than #1 but
> given that this is a cgroup owned property which is likely to be set
> on per-application basis, #1 is likely good enough.
> 
> IIRC, we did #2 in the original implementation and the simplified one
> is doing #1, right?

No, we've been discussing #2 unless I have misunderstood something.
I find it rather non-intuitive that a property outside of the oom domain
controls the behavior inside the domain. I will keep thinking about that
though.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-24 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-11 22:40 Roman Gushchin
2018-07-12 12:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-12 15:55   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-13 21:34 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 22:16   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-13 22:39     ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 23:05       ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-13 23:11         ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 23:16           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17  4:19             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-17 12:41               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 17:38               ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17 19:49                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 20:06                   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17 20:41                     ` David Rientjes
2018-07-17 20:52                       ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-20  8:30                         ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 11:21                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-20 16:13                             ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-20 20:28                             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 20:47                               ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-23 23:06                                 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 14:12                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18  8:19                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18  8:12                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18 15:28                       ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-19  7:38                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-19 17:05                           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-20  8:32                             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 14:17                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 15:09                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24  7:32                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:08                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 13:26                                     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-07-24 13:31                                       ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 13:50                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:55                                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:25                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:28                                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:35                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:43                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:49                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 15:52                                                     ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-25 12:00                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-25 11:58                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30  8:03                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:04                                         ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-30 15:29                                           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-24 11:59 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-25  0:10   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-25 12:23     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-25 13:01       ` Michal Hocko

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