From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
Kai Huang <kai.huang@linux.intel.com>,
Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 03/19] mm/ksm: Do not merge pages with different KeyIDs
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 15:23:15 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180720122315.5lue3trrmvewvxg2@kshutemo-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3045c925-f5a8-ae68-8f77-4cddaf040f9f@intel.com>
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 07:02:34AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 07/19/2018 12:32 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:38:27AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >> On 07/17/2018 04:20 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> >>> Pages encrypted with different encryption keys are not allowed to be
> >>> merged by KSM. Otherwise it would cross security boundary.
> >> Let's say I'm using plain AES (not AES-XTS). I use the same key in two
> >> keyid slots. I map a page with the first keyid and another with the
> >> other keyid.
> >>
> >> Won't they have the same cipertext? Why shouldn't we KSM them?
> > We compare plain text, not ciphertext. And for good reason.
>
> What's the reason? Probably good to talk about it for those playing
> along at home.
I'll update commit message.
> > Comparing ciphertext would only make KSM successful for AES-ECB that
> > doesn't dependent on physical address of the page.
> >
> > MKTME only supports AES-XTS (no plans to support AES-ECB). It effectively
> > disables KSM if we go with comparing ciphertext.
>
> But what's the security boundary that is violated? You are talking
> about some practical concerns (KSM scanning inefficiency) which is a far
> cry from being any kind of security issue.
As with zero page, my initial reasoning was that mixing pages from
different secrutiy domains is bad idea.
--
Kirill A. Shutemov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-20 12:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-17 11:20 [PATCHv5 00/19] MKTME enabling Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 01/19] mm: Do no merge VMAs with different encryption KeyIDs Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 02/19] mm: Do not use zero page in encrypted pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 17:36 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-19 7:16 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 13:58 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-20 12:16 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 03/19] mm/ksm: Do not merge pages with different KeyIDs Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 17:38 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-19 7:32 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 14:02 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-20 12:23 ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 04/19] mm/page_alloc: Unify alloc_hugepage_vma() Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 17:43 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 05/19] mm/page_alloc: Handle allocation for encrypted memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 23:03 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-19 8:27 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 14:05 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-20 12:25 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-26 14:25 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 06/19] mm/khugepaged: Handle encrypted pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 23:11 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-19 8:59 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 14:13 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-20 12:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 07/19] x86/mm: Mask out KeyID bits from page table entry pfn Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 23:13 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-19 9:54 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 14:19 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-20 12:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 08/19] x86/mm: Introduce variables to store number, shift and mask of KeyIDs Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 23:19 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-19 10:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 12:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-19 13:12 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 13:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-19 13:23 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 13:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-20 12:34 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-20 13:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-20 13:40 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 14:23 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-20 12:34 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-31 0:08 ` Kai Huang
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 09/19] x86/mm: Preserve KeyID on pte_modify() and pgprot_modify() Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 23:30 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-20 12:42 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 10/19] x86/mm: Implement page_keyid() using page_ext Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 23:38 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-23 9:45 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-23 17:22 ` Alison Schofield
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 11/19] x86/mm: Implement vma_keyid() Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 23:40 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-23 9:47 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 12/19] x86/mm: Implement prep_encrypted_page() and arch_free_page() Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 23:53 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-23 9:50 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 13/19] x86/mm: Rename CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_MEMORY_PHYSICAL_PADDING Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 14/19] x86/mm: Allow to disable MKTME after enumeration Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 15/19] x86/mm: Detect MKTME early Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 16/19] x86/mm: Calculate direct mapping size Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 17/19] x86/mm: Implement sync_direct_mapping() Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-19 0:01 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-23 10:04 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-23 12:25 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 18/19] x86/mm: Handle encrypted memory in page_to_virt() and __pa() Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-18 22:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-23 10:12 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-26 17:26 ` Dave Hansen
2018-07-27 13:49 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-17 11:20 ` [PATCHv5 19/19] x86: Introduce CONFIG_X86_INTEL_MKTME Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-08-15 7:48 ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-17 9:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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