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From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, tj@kernel.org, gthelen@google.com
Subject: Re: cgroup-aware OOM killer, how to move forward
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:52:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180717205221.GA19862@castle.DHCP.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1807171329200.12251@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 01:41:33PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> 
> > > > Let me show my proposal on examples. Let's say we have the following hierarchy,
> > > > and the biggest process (or the process with highest oom_score_adj) is in D.
> > > > 
> > > >   /
> > > >   |
> > > >   A
> > > >   |
> > > >   B
> > > >  / \
> > > > C   D
> > > > 
> > > > Let's look at different examples and intended behavior:
> > > > 1) system-wide OOM
> > > >   - default settings: the biggest process is killed
> > > >   - D/memory.group_oom=1: all processes in D are killed
> > > >   - A/memory.group_oom=1: all processes in A are killed
> > > > 2) memcg oom in B
> > > >   - default settings: the biggest process is killed
> > > >   - A/memory.group_oom=1: the biggest process is killed
> > > 
> > > Huh? Why would you even consider A here when the oom is below it?
> > > /me confused
> > 
> > I do not.
> > This is exactly a counter-example: A's memory.group_oom
> > is not considered at all in this case,
> > because A is above ooming cgroup.
> > 
> 
> I think the confusion is that this says A/memory.group_oom=1 and then the 
> biggest process is killed, which doesn't seem like it matches the 
> description you want to give memory.group_oom.

It matches perfectly, as the description says that the kernel will
look for the most high-level cgroup with group_oom set up to the OOM domain.
Here B is oom domain, so A's settings are irrelevant.

> 
> > > >   - B/memory.group_oom=1: all processes in B are killed
> > > 
> > >     - B/memory.group_oom=0 &&
> > > >   - D/memory.group_oom=1: all processes in D are killed
> > > 
> > > What about?
> > >     - B/memory.group_oom=1 && D/memory.group_oom=0
> > 
> > All tasks in B are killed.
> > 
> > Group_oom set to 1 means that the workload can't tolerate
> > killing of a random process, so in this case it's better
> > to guarantee consistency for B.
> > 
> 
> This example is missing the usecase that I was referring to, i.e. killing 
> all processes attached to a subtree because the limit on a common ancestor 
> has been reached.
> 
> In your example, I would think that the memory.group_oom setting of /A and 
> /A/B are meaningless because there are no processes attached to them.
> 
> IIUC, your proposal is to select the victim by whatever means, check the 
> memory.group_oom setting of that victim, and then either kill the victim 
> or all processes attached to that local mem cgroup depending on the 
> setting.

Sorry, I don't get what are you saying.
In cgroup v2 processes can't be attached to A and B.
There is no such thing as "local mem cgroup" at all.

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-17 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-11 22:40 Roman Gushchin
2018-07-12 12:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-12 15:55   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-13 21:34 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 22:16   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-13 22:39     ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 23:05       ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-13 23:11         ` David Rientjes
2018-07-13 23:16           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17  4:19             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-17 12:41               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 17:38               ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17 19:49                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 20:06                   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-17 20:41                     ` David Rientjes
2018-07-17 20:52                       ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2018-07-20  8:30                         ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 11:21                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-20 16:13                             ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-20 20:28                             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 20:47                               ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-23 23:06                                 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 14:12                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18  8:19                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18  8:12                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-18 15:28                       ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-19  7:38                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-19 17:05                           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-20  8:32                             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 14:17                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 15:09                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24  7:32                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:08                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 13:26                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:31                                       ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 13:50                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:55                                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:25                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:28                                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:35                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 14:43                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:49                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-24 15:52                                                     ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-25 12:00                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-25 11:58                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30  8:03                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:04                                         ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-30 15:29                                           ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-24 11:59 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-25  0:10   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-07-25 12:23     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-25 13:01       ` Michal Hocko

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