From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@mellanox.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 07:03:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180717040347.GT3152@mtr-leonro.mtl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180716161249.c76240cd487c070fb271d529@linux-foundation.org>
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 04:12:49PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:50:58 +0200 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> >
> > There are several blockable mmu notifiers which might sleep in
> > mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start and that is a problem for the
> > oom_reaper because it needs to guarantee a forward progress so it cannot
> > depend on any sleepable locks.
> >
> > Currently we simply back off and mark an oom victim with blockable mmu
> > notifiers as done after a short sleep. That can result in selecting a
> > new oom victim prematurely because the previous one still hasn't torn
> > its memory down yet.
> >
> > We can do much better though. Even if mmu notifiers use sleepable locks
> > there is no reason to automatically assume those locks are held.
> > Moreover majority of notifiers only care about a portion of the address
> > space and there is absolutely zero reason to fail when we are unmapping an
> > unrelated range. Many notifiers do really block and wait for HW which is
> > harder to handle and we have to bail out though.
> >
> > This patch handles the low hanging fruid. __mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start
> > gets a blockable flag and callbacks are not allowed to sleep if the
> > flag is set to false. This is achieved by using trylock instead of the
> > sleepable lock for most callbacks and continue as long as we do not
> > block down the call chain.
>
> I assume device driver developers are wondering "what does this mean
> for me". As I understand it, the only time they will see
> blockable==false is when their driver is being called in response to an
> out-of-memory condition, yes? So it is a very rare thing.
I can't say for everyone, but at least for me (mlx5), it is not rare event.
I'm seeing OOM very often while I'm running my tests in low memory VMs.
Thanks
>
> Any suggestions regarding how the driver developers can test this code
> path? I don't think we presently have a way to fake an oom-killing
> event? Perhaps we should add such a thing, given the problems we're
> having with that feature.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-17 4:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-16 11:50 Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 23:12 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-17 4:03 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2018-07-17 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-20 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-23 8:43 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-19 9:12 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-21 0:09 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-23 7:03 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 7:11 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 8:11 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:17 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 19:53 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-25 6:17 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 21:07 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-25 6:13 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 10:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 11:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 11:43 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 11:52 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 11:57 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 12:03 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 12:18 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 12:33 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 12:52 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:01 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:10 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:24 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:28 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:44 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:52 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-26 8:40 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-27 7:41 ` Christian König
2018-09-06 22:46 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 15:08 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 11:36 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:02 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 13:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 14:52 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 15:12 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 16:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 17:33 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 16:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 14:40 ` Jerome Glisse
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