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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Chao Fan <fanc.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Dou Liyang <douly.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	yasu.isimatu@gmail.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	indou.takao@jp.fujitsu.com, caoj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, mgorman@techsingularity.net
Subject: Re: Bug report about KASLR and ZONE_MOVABLE
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:02:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180716130202.GB1724@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180716113845.GM17280@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 07/16/18 at 01:38pm, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 13-07-18 07:52:40, Baoquan He wrote:
> > Hi Michal,
> > 
> > On 07/12/18 at 02:32pm, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > I am not able to find the beginning of the email thread right now. Could
> > > you summarize what is the actual problem please?
> > 
> > The bug is found on x86 now. 
> > 
> > When added "kernelcore=" or "movablecore=" into kernel command line,
> > kernel memory is spread evenly among nodes. However, this is right when
> > KASLR is not enabled, then kernel will be at 16M of place in x86 arch.
> > If KASLR enabled, it could be put any place from 16M to 64T randomly.
> >  
> > Consider a scenario, we have 10 nodes, and each node has 20G memory, and
> > we specify "kernelcore=50%", means each node will take 10G for
> > kernelcore, 10G for movable area. But this doesn't take kernel position
> > into consideration. E.g if kernel is put at 15G of 2nd node, namely
> > node1. Then we think on node1 there's 10G for kernelcore, 10G for
> > movable, in fact there's only 5G available for movable, just after
> > kernel.
> 
> OK, I guess I see that part. But who is going to use movablecore along
> with KASLR enabled? I mean do we really have to support those two
> obscure command line parameters for KASLR?

Not very sure whether we have to support both of those to work with
KASLR. Maybe it's time to make clear of it now.

For 'kernelcore=mirror', we have solved the conflict to make it work well
with KASLR. For 'movable_node' conflict with KASLR, Chao is posting
patches to fix it. As for 'kernelcore=' and 'movablecore=', 

1) solve the conflict between them with KASLR in
   find_zone_movable_pfns_for_nodes();
2) disable KASLR when 'kernelcore=' | 'movablecore=' is set;
3) disable 'kernelcore=' | 'movablecore=' when KASLR is enabled;
4) add note in doc to notice people to not add them at the same time;

2) and 3) may need be fixed in arch/x86 code. As long as come to an
agreement, any one is fine to me.
> 
> In fact I would be much more concerned about memory hotplug and
> pre-defined movable nodes. Does the current KASLR code work in that
> case?

As said above, kernelcore=mirror works well with KASLR now. Making
'movable_node' work with KASLR is in progress.

Thanks
Baoquan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-16 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20180711094244.GA2019@localhost.localdomain>
2018-07-11 10:41 ` Baoquan He
2018-07-11 10:49   ` Baoquan He
2018-07-11 12:40     ` Baoquan He
2018-07-11 17:59       ` [PATCH v3] mm, page_alloc: find movable zone after kernel text kbuild test robot
2018-07-11 19:02       ` kbuild test robot
2018-07-12  1:19       ` Bug report about KASLR and ZONE_MOVABLE Chao Fan
2018-07-12 12:08         ` Baoquan He
2018-07-12  5:49       ` Dou Liyang
2018-07-12  6:01         ` Chao Fan
2018-07-12 12:32           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-12 23:52             ` Baoquan He
2018-07-13  1:44               ` Chao Fan
2018-07-16 11:38               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 13:02                 ` Baoquan He [this message]
2018-07-16 15:24                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17  1:51                     ` Baoquan He
2018-07-17  8:22                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-11 12:41     ` Baoquan He

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