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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	kirill@shutemov.name, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v4 0/3] mm: zap pages with read mmap_sem in munmap for large mapping
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:15:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180712081524.GE32648@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180711154954.afe001e284574cd5d4c3ec89@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed 11-07-18 15:49:54, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:33:12 +0200 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > > Approach:
> > > Zapping pages is the most time consuming part, according to the suggestion from
> > > Michal Hocko [1], zapping pages can be done with holding read mmap_sem, like
> > > what MADV_DONTNEED does. Then re-acquire write mmap_sem to cleanup vmas.
> > > 
> > > But, we can't call MADV_DONTNEED directly, since there are two major drawbacks:
> > >   * The unexpected state from PF if it wins the race in the middle of munmap.
> > >     It may return zero page, instead of the content or SIGSEGV.
> > >   * Cana??t handle VM_LOCKED | VM_HUGETLB | VM_PFNMAP and uprobe mappings, which
> > >     is a showstopper from akpm
> > 
> > I do not really understand why this is a showstopper. This is a mere
> > optimization. VM_LOCKED ranges are usually not that large. VM_HUGETLB
> > can be quite large alright but this should be doable on top. Is there
> > any reason to block any "cover most mappings first" patch?
> 
> Somebody somewhere is going to want to unmap vast mlocked regions and
> they're going to report softlockup warnings. So we shouldn't implement
> something which can't address these cases.  Maybe it doesn't do so in
> the first version, but we should at least have a plan to handle all
> cases.

Absolutely. I was just responding to the "showstopper" part. This is
improving some cases but it shouldn't make others worse so going
incremental should be perfectly reasonable.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-12  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-10 23:34 Yang Shi
2018-07-10 23:34 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 1/3] mm: introduce VM_DEAD flag and extend check_stable_address_space to check it Yang Shi
2018-07-10 23:34 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 2/3] mm: refactor do_munmap() to extract the common part Yang Shi
2018-07-10 23:34 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 3/3] mm: mmap: zap pages with read mmap_sem for large mapping Yang Shi
2018-07-11 10:33 ` [RFC v4 0/3] mm: zap pages with read mmap_sem in munmap " Michal Hocko
2018-07-11 11:13   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-11 11:53     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-11 17:08       ` Yang Shi
2018-07-11 16:57   ` Yang Shi
2018-07-11 22:49   ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-12  8:15     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-07-11 11:10 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-11 11:58   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-11 17:04   ` Yang Shi
2018-07-12  8:04     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-12 23:45       ` Yang Shi

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