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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [rfc patch] mm, oom: fix unnecessary killing of additional processes
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:29:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613132944.GL13364@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56138495-fd91-62f8-464a-db9960bfeb28@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

On Wed 13-06-18 22:20:49, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2018/06/05 17:57, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> For this reason, we see testing harnesses often oom killed immediately 
> >> after running a unittest that stresses reclaim or compaction by inducing a 
> >> system-wide oom condition.  The harness spawns the unittest which spawns 
> >> an antagonist memory hog that is intended to be oom killed.  When memory 
> >> is mlocked or there are a large number of threads faulting memory for the 
> >> antagonist, the unittest and the harness itself get oom killed because the 
> >> oom reaper sets MMF_OOM_SKIP; this ends up happening a lot on powerpc.  
> >> The memory hog has mm->mmap_sem readers queued ahead of a writer that is 
> >> doing mmap() so the oom reaper can't grab the sem quickly enough.
> > 
> > How come the writer doesn't back off. mmap paths should be taking an
> > exclusive mmap sem in killable sleep so it should back off. Or is the
> > holder of the lock deep inside mmap path doing something else and not
> > backing out with the exclusive lock held?
> > 
>  
> Here is an example where the writer doesn't back off.
> 
>   http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20180607150546.1c7db21f70221008e14b8bb8@linux-foundation.org
> 
> down_write_killable(&mm->mmap_sem) is nothing but increasing the possibility of
> successfully back off. There is no guarantee that the owner of that exclusive
> mmap sem will not be blocked by other unkillable waits.

but we are talking about mmap() path here. Sure there are other paths
which might need a back off while the lock is held and that should be
addressed if possible but this is not really related to what David wrote
above and I tried to understand.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-13 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-24 21:22 David Rientjes
2018-05-25  0:19 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-25 19:44   ` David Rientjes
2018-05-25  7:26 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25 19:36   ` David Rientjes
2018-05-28  8:13     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-30 21:06       ` David Rientjes
2018-05-31  6:32         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 21:16           ` David Rientjes
2018-06-01  7:46             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-05  4:25               ` David Rientjes
2018-06-05  8:57                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-13 13:20                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-13 13:29                     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-06-04  5:48 ` [lkp-robot] [mm, oom] 2d251ff6e6: BUG:unable_to_handle_kernel kernel test robot
2018-06-14 20:42 ` [patch] mm, oom: fix unnecessary killing of additional processes David Rientjes
2018-06-15  6:55   ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-15 23:15     ` David Rientjes
2018-06-19  8:33       ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-20 13:03         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-20 20:34           ` David Rientjes
2018-06-21  7:45             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-21  7:54               ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-21 20:50               ` David Rientjes
2018-06-22  7:42                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 14:29                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 18:49                     ` David Rientjes
2018-06-25  9:04                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-19  0:27   ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-19  8:47     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-19 20:34     ` David Rientjes
2018-06-20 21:59       ` [patch v2] " David Rientjes
2018-06-21 10:58         ` [RFC PATCH] mm, oom: oom_free_timeout_ms can be static kbuild test robot
2018-06-21 10:58         ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix unnecessary killing of additional processes kbuild test robot
2018-06-24  2:36   ` [patch] " Tetsuo Handa

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