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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: guro@fb.com, rientjes@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, tj@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held.
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 13:50:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180524115017.GE20441@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201805241951.IFF48475.FMOSOJFQHLVtFO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Thu 24-05-18 19:51:24, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Look. I am fed up with this discussion. You are fiddling with the code
> > and moving hacks around with a lot of hand waving. Rahter than trying to
> > look at the underlying problem. Your patch completely ignores PREEMPT as
> > I've mentioned in previous versions.
> 
> I'm not ignoring PREEMPT. To fix this OOM lockup problem properly, as much
> efforts as fixing Spectre/Meltdown problems will be required. This patch is
> a mitigation for regression introduced by fixing CVE-2018-1000200. Nothing
> is good with deferring this patch.
> 
> > I would be OK with removing the sleep from the out_of_memory path based
> > on your argumentation that we have a _proper_ synchronization with the
> > exit path now.
> 
> Such attempt should be made in a separate patch.
> 
> You suggested removing this sleep from my patch without realizing that
> we need explicit schedule_timeout_*() for PF_WQ_WORKER threads.

And that sleep is in should_reclaim_retry. If that is not sufficient it
should be addressed rather than spilling more of that crud all over the
place.

> My patch
> is trying to be as conservative/safe as possible (for easier backport)
> while reducing the risk of falling into OOM lockup.

And it adss more crud
 
> I worry that you are completely overlooking
> 
>                 char *fmt, ...)
>  	 */
>  	if (!mutex_trylock(&oom_lock)) {
>  		*did_some_progress = 1;
> -		schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(1);
>  		return NULL;
>  	}
>  
> 
> part in this patch.

I am not. But it doesn't really make much sense to convince you if you
are not reading what I am writing. I am done with this thread.
Discussion is just a waste of time.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-24 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-12 14:18 Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-15  9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-18 10:14   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-18 12:20     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-20 15:56       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-22  6:18         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 10:24           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-23 11:57             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 13:45               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-23 14:56                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 10:51                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-24 11:50                     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-05-25  1:17                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-25  8:31                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25 10:57                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-25 11:42                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-25 11:46                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-28 12:43                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 20:57                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-29  7:17                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 23:07                                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-31 10:10                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-31 10:44                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 15:23                                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-31 18:47                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01  1:21                                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-01  8:04                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 15:28                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 21:11                                           ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-04  7:04                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 10:41                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-04 11:22                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 11:30                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-06  9:02                                                 ` David Rientjes
2018-06-06 13:37                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-06-06 18:44                                                     ` David Rientjes
2018-05-29  7:17             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29  8:16               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 14:33                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-05-29 17:18                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 17:28                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 16:31                 ` [PATCH] mm, memcg, oom: fix pre-mature allocation failures kbuild test robot
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-22 10:51 [PATCH] mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-22 11:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-22 13:16   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-22 13:46 Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-23  8:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 12:07   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-23 12:42     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 13:28       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-13 11:58         ` Tetsuo Handa

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