From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
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Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
Cyrille Pitchen <cyrille.pitchen@wedev4u.fr>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
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Subject: Re: vmalloc with GFP_NOFS
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 10:55:32 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180424165532.GO17484@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1804241240120.27049@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>
On Tue 24-04-18 12:46:55, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > it seems that we still have few vmalloc users who perform GFP_NOFS
> > allocation:
> > drivers/mtd/ubi/io.c
> > fs/ext4/xattr.c
> > fs/gfs2/dir.c
> > fs/gfs2/quota.c
> > fs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.c
> > fs/ubifs/debug.c
> > fs/ubifs/lprops.c
> > fs/ubifs/lpt_commit.c
> > fs/ubifs/orphan.c
> >
> > Unfortunatelly vmalloc doesn't suppoer GFP_NOFS semantinc properly
> > because we do have hardocded GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the
> > vmalloc layers. That means that if GFP_NOFS really protects from
> > recursion into the fs deadlocks then the vmalloc call is broken.
> >
> > What to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be
> > really great to double check whether the GFP_NOFS is really needed. I
> > cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code. It would be
> > great if the respective maintainers (hopefully get_maintainer.sh pointed
> > me to all relevant ones). If there is not reclaim recursion issue then
> > simply use the standard vmalloc (aka GFP_KERNEL request).
> >
> > If the use is really valid then we have a way to do the vmalloc
> > allocation properly. We have memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api. How
> > does that work? You simply call memalloc_nofs_save when the reclaim
> > recursion critical section starts (e.g. when you take a lock which is
> > then used in the reclaim path - e.g. shrinker) and memalloc_nofs_restore
> > when the critical section ends. _All_ allocations within that scope
> > will get GFP_NOFS semantic automagically. If you are not sure about the
> > scope itself then the easiest workaround is to wrap the vmalloc itself
> > with a big fat comment that this should be revisited.
> >
> > Does that sound like something that can be done in a reasonable time?
> > I have tried to bring this up in the past but our speed is glacial and
> > there are attempts to do hacks like checking for abusers inside the
> > vmalloc which is just too ugly to live.
> >
> > Please do not hesitate to get back to me if something is not clear.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > --
> > Michal Hocko
> > SUSE Labs
>
> I made a patch that adds memalloc_noio/fs_save around these calls a year
> ago: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1707.0/01376.html
Yeah, and that is the wrong approach. Let's try to fix this properly
this time. As the above outlines, the worst case we can end up mid-term
would be to wrap vmalloc calls with the scope api with a TODO. But I am
pretty sure the respective maintainers can come up with a better
solution. I am definitely willing to help here.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-24 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-24 16:27 Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 16:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 16:55 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-04-24 17:05 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 18:35 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-24 19:25 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 13:42 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 14:13 ` David Sterba
2018-05-09 15:13 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-09 16:24 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-09 21:06 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 21:04 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 22:02 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-10 5:58 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-10 7:18 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 11:43 ` [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 14:33 ` Shakeel Butt
2018-05-24 14:47 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 16:37 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-25 7:52 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 7:21 ` Nikolay Borisov
2018-05-29 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 11:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 20:52 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-25 8:11 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 22:17 ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-24 23:25 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-25 8:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-27 12:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-28 9:21 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 16:10 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-29 8:21 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-27 23:48 ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-28 9:19 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 22:32 ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-29 8:18 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 8:26 ` [PATCH v2] " Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 10:22 ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-29 11:50 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-29 11:51 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-29 12:37 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:49 ` vmalloc with GFP_NOFS Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 19:03 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:28 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 22:18 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 23:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 23:25 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-25 12:43 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 14:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-25 15:25 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 16:56 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:47 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 19:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:26 ` Steven Whitehouse
2018-04-24 20:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:50 ` Michal Hocko
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