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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: mhocko@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, aarcange@redhat.com, guro@fb.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 19:45:46 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201804191945.BBF87517.FVMLOQFOHSFJOt@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180419063556.GK17484@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko wrote:
> > exit_mmap() does not block before set_bit(MMF_OOM_SKIP) once it is 
> > entered.
> 
> Not true. munlock_vma_pages_all might take page_lock which can have
> unpredictable dependences. This is the reason why we are ruling out
> mlocked VMAs in the first place when reaping the address space.

Wow! Then,

> While you are correct, strictly speaking, because unmap_vmas can race
> with the oom reaper. With the lock held during the whole operation we
> can indeed trigger back off in the oom_repaer. It will keep retrying but
> the tear down can take quite some time. This is a fair argument. On the
> other hand your lock protocol introduces the MMF_OOM_SKIP problem I've
> mentioned above and that really worries me. The primary objective of the
> reaper is to guarantee a forward progress without relying on any
> externalities. We might kill another OOM victim but that is safer than
> lock up.

current code has a possibility that the OOM reaper is disturbed by
unpredictable dependencies, like I worried that

  I think that there is a possibility that the OOM reaper tries to reclaim
  mlocked pages as soon as exit_mmap() cleared VM_LOCKED flag by calling
  munlock_vma_pages_all().

when current approach was proposed. We currently have the MMF_OOM_SKIP problem.
We need to teach the OOM reaper stop reaping as soon as entering exit_mmap().
Maybe let the OOM reaper poll for progress (e.g. none of get_mm_counter(mm, *)
decreased for last 1 second) ?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-19 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 22:46 [patch] " David Rientjes
2018-04-18  0:57 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18  2:39   ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18  2:52     ` [patch v2] " David Rientjes
2018-04-18  3:55       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18  4:11         ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18  4:47           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18  5:20             ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18  7:50       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 11:49         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 11:58           ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 13:25             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 13:44               ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 14:28                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 19:14         ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19  6:35           ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 10:45             ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2018-04-19 11:04               ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 11:51                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-19 12:48                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 19:14               ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19 19:34             ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19 22:13               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-20  8:23               ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-20 12:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-22  3:22                   ` David Rientjes
2018-04-22  3:48                     ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaperunmap Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-22 13:08                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24  2:31                       ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24  5:11                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-24  5:35                           ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 21:57                             ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-24 22:25                               ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 22:34                                 ` [patch v3 for-4.17] " David Rientjes
2018-04-24 23:19                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 13:04                         ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaperunmap Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 20:01                           ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 20:13                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 20:22                               ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 20:31                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 21:07                                   ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 23:08                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:14                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-22  3:45                 ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap David Rientjes
2018-04-22 13:18                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-23 16:09                     ` Michal Hocko

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