From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:47:52 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201804180447.w3I4lq60017956@www262.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1804172103050.113086@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Fix this by reusing MMF_UNSTABLE to specify that an mm should not be
> > > reaped. This prevents the concurrent munlock_vma_pages_range() and
> > > unmap_page_range(). The oom reaper will simply not operate on an mm that
> > > has the bit set and leave the unmapping to exit_mmap().
> >
> > This change assumes that munlock_vma_pages_all()/unmap_vmas()/free_pgtables()
> > are never blocked for memory allocation. Is that guaranteed? For example,
> > i_mmap_lock_write() from unmap_single_vma() from unmap_vmas() is never blocked
> > for memory allocation? Commit 97b1255cb27c551d ("mm,oom_reaper: check for
> > MMF_OOM_SKIP before complaining") was waiting for i_mmap_lock_write() from
> > unlink_file_vma() from free_pgtables(). Is it really guaranteed that somebody
> > else who is holding that lock is never waiting for memory allocation?
> >
>
> Commit 97b1255cb27c is referencing MMF_OOM_SKIP already being set by
> exit_mmap(). The only thing this patch changes is where that is done:
> before or after free_pgtables(). We can certainly move it to before
> free_pgtables() at the risk of subsequent (and eventually unnecessary) oom
> kills. It's not exactly the point of this patch.
>
> I have thousands of real-world examples where additional processes were
> oom killed while the original victim was in free_pgtables(). That's why
> we've moved the MMF_OOM_SKIP to after free_pgtables().
"we have moved"? No, not yet. Your patch is about to move it.
My question is: is it guaranteed that munlock_vma_pages_all()/unmap_vmas()/free_pgtables()
by exit_mmap() are never blocked for memory allocation. Note that exit_mmap() tries to unmap
all pages while the OOM reaper tries to unmap only safe pages. If there is possibility that
munlock_vma_pages_all()/unmap_vmas()/free_pgtables() by exit_mmap() are blocked for memory
allocation, your patch will introduce an OOM livelock.
> I'm not sure how
> likely your scenario is in the real world, but if it poses a problem then
> I believe it should be fixed by eventually deferring previous victims as a
> change to oom_evaluate_task(), not exit_mmap(). If you'd like me to fix
> that, please send along your test case that triggers it and I will send a
> patch.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-18 4:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-17 22:46 [patch] " David Rientjes
2018-04-18 0:57 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 2:39 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18 2:52 ` [patch v2] " David Rientjes
2018-04-18 3:55 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 4:11 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18 4:47 ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2018-04-18 5:20 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18 7:50 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 11:49 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 11:58 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 13:25 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 13:44 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 14:28 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 19:14 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19 6:35 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 10:45 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-19 11:04 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 11:51 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-19 12:48 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 19:14 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19 19:34 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19 22:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-20 8:23 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-20 12:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-22 3:22 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-22 3:48 ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaperunmap Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-22 13:08 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 2:31 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 5:11 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-24 5:35 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 21:57 ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-24 22:25 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 22:34 ` [patch v3 for-4.17] " David Rientjes
2018-04-24 23:19 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 13:04 ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaperunmap Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 20:01 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 20:13 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 20:22 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 20:31 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 21:07 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 23:08 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:14 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-22 3:45 ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap David Rientjes
2018-04-22 13:18 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-23 16:09 ` Michal Hocko
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