From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg0-f71.google.com (mail-pg0-f71.google.com [74.125.83.71]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5D16B0027 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg0-f71.google.com with SMTP id t13so1026783pgu.23 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org. [198.145.29.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s3si1789742pfg.175.2018.04.16.09.30.23 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:30:19 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes Message-ID: <20180416123019.4d235374@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20180416161911.GA2341@sasha-vm> References: <20180409001936.162706-1-alexander.levin@microsoft.com> <20180409001936.162706-15-alexander.levin@microsoft.com> <20180409082246.34hgp3ymkfqke3a4@pathway.suse.cz> <20180415144248.GP2341@sasha-vm> <20180416093058.6edca0bb@gandalf.local.home> <20180416113629.2474ae74@gandalf.local.home> <20180416160200.GY2341@sasha-vm> <20180416121224.2138b806@gandalf.local.home> <20180416161911.GA2341@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Sasha Levin Cc: Linus Torvalds , Petr Mladek , "stable@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Cong Wang , Dave Hansen , Johannes Weiner , Mel Gorman , Michal Hocko , Vlastimil Babka , Peter Zijlstra , Jan Kara , Mathieu Desnoyers , Tetsuo Handa , Byungchul Park , Tejun Heo , Pavel Machek On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:19:14 +0000 Sasha Levin wrote: > >Wait! What does that mean? What's the purpose of stable if it is as > >broken as mainline? > > This just means that if there is a fix that went in mainline, and the > fix is broken somehow, we'd rather take the broken fix than not. > > In this scenario, *something* will be broken, it's just a matter of > what. We'd rather have the same thing broken between mainline and > stable. Honestly, I think that removes all value of the stable series. I remember when the stable series were first created. People were saying that it wouldn't even get to more than 5 versions, because the bar for backporting was suppose to be very high. Today it's just a fork of the kernel at a given version. No more features, but we will be OK with regressions. I'm struggling to see what the benefit of it is suppose to be? -- Steve