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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/8] mm: online/offline 4MB chunks controlled by device driver
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:59:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180413155917.GX17484@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180413131632.1413-1-david@redhat.com>

On Fri 13-04-18 15:16:24, David Hildenbrand wrote:
[...]
> In contrast to existing balloon solutions:
> - The device is responsible for its own memory only.

Please be more specific. Any ballooning driver is responsible for its
own memory. So what exactly does that mean?

> - Works on a coarser granularity (e.g. 4MB because that's what we can
>   online/offline in Linux). We are not using the buddy allocator when unplugging
>   but really search for chunks of memory we can offline.

Again, more details please. Virtio driver already tries to scan suitable
pages to balloon AFAIK.

> - A device can belong to exactly one NUMA node. This way we can online/offline
>   memory in a fine granularity NUMA aware.

What does prevent existing balloon solutions to be NUMA aware?

> - Architectures that don't have proper memory hotplug interfaces (e.g. s390x)
>   get memory hotplug support. I have a prototype for s390x.

I am pretty sure that s390 does support memory hotplug. Or what do you
mean?

> - Once all 4MB chunks of a memory block are offline, we can remove the
>   memory block and therefore the struct pages (seems to work in my prototype),
>   which is nice.

OK, so our existing ballooning solutions indeed do not free up memmaps
which is suboptimal.

> Todo:
> - We might have to add a parameter to offline_pages(), telling it to not
>   try forever but abort in case it takes too long.

Offlining fails when it see non-migrateable pages but other than that it
should always succeed in the finite time. If not then there is a bug to
be fixed.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-13 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-13 13:16 David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:16 ` [PATCH RFC 1/8] mm/memory_hotplug: Revert "mm/memory_hotplug: optimize memory hotplug" David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:16 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] mm: introduce PG_offline David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:40   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-13 13:46     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-17 11:50     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 17:11   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-16  8:31     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-21 16:52     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-22  3:01       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-22  8:17         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-22 14:02           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-22 15:13             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-29 21:08               ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-30  6:31                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-20  7:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:16 ` [PATCH RFC 3/8] mm: use PG_offline in online/offlining code David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:31 ` [PATCH RFC 4/8] kdump: expose PG_offline David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:33 ` [PATCH RFC 5/8] mm: only mark section offline when all pages are offline David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:33 ` [PATCH RFC 6/8] mm: offline_pages() is also limited by MAX_ORDER David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:33 ` [PATCH RFC 7/8] mm: allow to control onlining/offlining of memory by a driver David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 15:59   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-13 16:32     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:33 ` [PATCH RFC 8/8] mm: export more functions used to online/offline memory David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 13:44 ` [PATCH RFC 0/8] mm: online/offline 4MB chunks controlled by device driver Michal Hocko
2018-04-13 14:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 14:20     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-13 14:59       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 15:02   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 16:03     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-13 16:36       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-13 15:59 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-04-13 16:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-16 14:08     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-16 14:48       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-18 15:46       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-19  7:33         ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-26 15:30           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-29 21:05             ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-30  6:24               ` David Hildenbrand

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