From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: slab: introduce the flag SLAB_MINIMIZE_WASTE
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:10:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180413151019.GA5660@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20c58a03-90a8-7e75-5fc7-856facfb6c8a@suse.cz>
On Fri, Apr 13 2018 at 5:22am -0400,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> On 03/21/2018 07:36 PM, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, Christopher Lameter wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >>
> >>>> You should not be using the slab allocators for these. Allocate higher
> >>>> order pages or numbers of consecutive smaller pagess from the page
> >>>> allocator. The slab allocators are written for objects smaller than page
> >>>> size.
> >>>
> >>> So, do you argue that I need to write my own slab cache functionality
> >>> instead of using the existing slab code?
> >>
> >> Just use the existing page allocator calls to allocate and free the
> >> memory you need.
> >>
> >>> I can do it - but duplicating code is bad thing.
> >>
> >> There is no need to duplicate anything. There is lots of infrastructure
> >> already in the kernel. You just need to use the right allocation / freeing
> >> calls.
> >
> > So, what would you recommend for allocating 640KB objects while minimizing
> > wasted space?
> > * alloc_pages - rounds up to the next power of two
> > * kmalloc - rounds up to the next power of two
> > * alloc_pages_exact - O(n*log n) complexity; and causes memory
> > fragmentation if used excesivelly
> > * vmalloc - horrible performance (modifies page tables and that causes
> > synchronization across all CPUs)
> >
> > anything else?
> >
> > The slab cache with large order seems as a best choice for this.
>
> Sorry for being late, I just read this thread and tend to agree with
> Mikulas, that this is a good use case for SL*B. If we extend the
> use-case from "space-efficient allocator of objects smaller than page
> size" to "space-efficient allocator of objects that are not power-of-two
> pages" then IMHO it turns out the implementation would be almost the
> same. All other variants listed above would lead to waste of memory or
> fragmentation.
>
> Would this perhaps be a good LSF/MM discussion topic? Mikulas, are you
> attending, or anyone else that can vouch for your usecase?
Any further discussion on SLAB_MINIMIZE_WASTE should continue on list.
Mikulas won't be at LSF/MM. But I included Mikulas' dm-bufio changes
that no longer depend on this proposed SLAB_MINIMIZE_WASTE (as part of
the 4.17 merge window).
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-13 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-20 17:25 [PATCH] " Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-20 17:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-20 17:54 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-20 19:22 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-20 20:42 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-20 22:02 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 15:35 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 16:25 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 17:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 17:30 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 17:39 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 17:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 18:01 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 18:23 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 18:40 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 18:55 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 18:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 18:58 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 19:25 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 18:36 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 18:57 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 19:19 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 20:09 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 20:37 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-23 15:10 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-23 15:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-23 15:48 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-13 9:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-13 15:10 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2018-04-16 12:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-16 14:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-04-16 14:37 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-16 14:46 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-04-16 14:57 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-16 15:18 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-16 15:25 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-16 15:45 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-16 19:36 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-16 19:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-16 21:01 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 14:40 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 18:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 21:42 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 14:49 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 14:47 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-16 19:32 ` [PATCH RESEND] " Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 14:45 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 16:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-17 16:38 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 19:09 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 17:26 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 19:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-17 19:06 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-18 14:55 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-25 21:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 23:24 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-26 19:01 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-26 21:09 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-27 16:41 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-27 19:19 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-13 17:01 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-13 18:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-13 18:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-26 18:51 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-16 19:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-16 21:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
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