From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-f69.google.com (mail-oi0-f69.google.com [209.85.218.69]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA096B0024 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 06:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f69.google.com with SMTP id d77-v6so383868oig.5 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 03:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www262.sakura.ne.jp (www262.sakura.ne.jp. [202.181.97.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 64si980848oid.447.2018.03.21.03.39.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Mar 2018 03:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm,page_alloc: wait for oom_lock than back off From: Tetsuo Handa References: <20180226121933.GC16269@dhcp22.suse.cz> <201802262216.ADH48949.FtQLFOHJOVSOMF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> <201803022010.BJE26043.LtSOOVFQOMJFHF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> <20180302141000.GB12772@dhcp22.suse.cz> <201803031215.FCJ69722.OtJFLQVFMFOSOH@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <201803031215.FCJ69722.OtJFLQVFMFOSOH@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> Message-Id: <201803211939.EFG92060.tFSHOFQFOMJLOV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:39:32 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: mhocko@kernel.org Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, guro@fb.com, tj@kernel.org, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org Tetsuo Handa wrote: > Michal Hocko wrote: > > > But since Michal is still worrying that adding a single synchronization > > > point into the OOM path is risky (without showing a real life example > > > where lock_killable() in the coldest OOM path hurts), changes made by > > > this patch will be enabled only when oom_compat_mode=0 kernel command line > > > parameter is specified so that users can test whether their workloads get > > > hurt by this patch. > > > > > Nacked with passion. This is absolutely hideous. First of all there is > > absolutely no need for the kernel command line. That is just trying to > > dance around the fact that you are not able to argue for the change > > and bring reasonable arguments on the table. We definitely do not want > > two subtly different modes for the oom handling. Secondly, and repeatedly, > > you are squashing multiple changes into a single patch. And finally this > > is too big of a hammer for something that even doesn't solve the problem > > for PREEMPTIVE kernels which are free to schedule regardless of the > > sleep or the reclaim retry you are so passion about. > > So, where is your version? Offload to a kernel thread like the OOM reaper? > Get rid of oom_lock? Just rejecting my proposal makes no progress. > Did you come up with some idea? Even CONFIG_PREEMPT=y, as far as I tested, v2 patch significantly reduces stalls than now. I believe there is no valid reason not to test my v2 patch at linux-next.