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From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Felix Kuehling <felix.kuehling@amd.com>
Cc: christian.koenig@amd.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Evgeny Baskakov <ebaskakov@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Bridgman, John" <John.Bridgman@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] SVM (share virtual memory) with HMM in nouveau
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 10:28:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180313142759.GB3828@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef3d82cd-6c39-a50a-c4cb-d9d9ba13e31b@amd.com>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:28:42PM -0400, Felix Kuehling wrote:
> On 2018-03-10 10:01 AM, Christian Konig wrote:
> >> To accomodate those we need to
> >> create a "hole" inside the process address space. This patchset have
> >> a hack for that (patch 13 HACK FOR HMM AREA), it reserves a range of
> >> device file offset so that process can mmap this range with PROT_NONE
> >> to create a hole (process must make sure the hole is below 1 << 40).
> >> I feel un-easy of doing it this way but maybe it is ok with other
> >> folks.
> >
> > Well we have essentially the same problem with pre gfx9 AMD hardware.
> > Felix might have some advise how it was solved for HSA. 
> 
> For pre-gfx9 hardware we reserve address space in user mode using a big
> mmap PROT_NONE call at application start. Then we manage the address
> space in user mode and use MAP_FIXED to map buffers at specific
> addresses within the reserved range.
> 
> The big address space reservation causes issues for some debugging tools
> (clang-sanitizer was mentioned to me), so with gfx9 we're going to get
> rid of this address space reservation.

What do you need those mapping for ? What kind of object (pm4 packet
command buffer, GPU semaphore | fence, ...) ? Kernel private object ?
On nv we need it for the main command buffer ring which we do not want
to expose to application.

Thus for nv gpu we need kernel to monitor this PROT_NONE region to make
sure that i never got unmapped, resize, move ... this is me fearing a
rogue userspace that munmap and try to abuse some bug in SVM/GPU driver
to abuse object map behind those fix mapping.

Cheers,
Jerome

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-13 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-10  3:21 jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] drm/nouveau/vmm: enable page table iterator over non populated range jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] drm/nouveau/core/memory: add some useful accessor macros jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] drm/nouveau/core: define engine for handling replayable faults jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] drm/nouveau/mmu/gp100: allow gcc/tex to generate " jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] drm/nouveau/mc/gp100-: handle replayable fault interrupt jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] drm/nouveau/fault/gp100: initial implementation of MaxwellFaultBufferA jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] drm/nouveau: special mapping method for HMM jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] drm/nouveau: special mapping method for HMM (user interface) jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] drm/nouveau: add SVM through HMM support to nouveau client jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] drm/nouveau: add HMM area creation jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] drm/nouveau: add HMM area creation user interface jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] drm/nouveau: HMM area creation helpers for nouveau client jglisse
2018-03-10  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] drm/nouveau: HACK FOR HMM AREA jglisse
2018-03-10 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] SVM (share virtual memory) with HMM in nouveau Christian König
2018-03-10 17:55   ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-12 17:30   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-03-12 17:50     ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-13  6:14       ` John Hubbard
2018-03-13 13:29         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-13 14:31           ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-13 15:56         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-13 10:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-03-12 18:28   ` Felix Kuehling
2018-03-13 14:28     ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2018-03-13 15:32       ` Felix Kuehling

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