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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Ilya Smith <blackzert@gmail.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Randomization of address chosen by mmap.
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 10:33:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180228183349.GA16336@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55C92196-5398-4C19-B7A7-6C122CD78F32@gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 08:13:00PM +0300, Ilya Smith wrote:
> > It would be worth spelling out the "not recommended" bit some more
> > too: this fragments the mmap space, which has some serious issues on
> > smaller address spaces if you get into a situation where you cannot
> > allocate a hole large enough between the other allocations.
> > 
> 
> Ia??m agree, that's the point.

Would it be worth randomising the address returned just ever so slightly?
ie instead of allocating exactly the next address, put in a guard hole
of (configurable, by default maybe) 1-15 pages?  Is that enough extra
entropy to foil an interesting number of attacks, or do we need the full
randomise-the-address-space approach in order to be useful?

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-28 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-27 13:13 Ilya Smith
2018-02-27 20:52 ` Kees Cook
2018-02-27 21:31   ` lazytyped
2018-02-28 17:13   ` Ilya Smith
2018-02-28 18:33     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-02-28 21:02       ` Daniel Micay
2018-03-03 13:58         ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-03 21:00           ` Daniel Micay
2018-03-04  3:47             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-04 20:56               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-05 13:09                 ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-05 14:23                   ` Daniel Micay
2018-03-05 16:05                     ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-05 16:23                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-05 19:27                     ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-05 19:47                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-05 20:20                         ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-02 20:30       ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-02 20:48         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-03 15:13           ` Ilya Smith
2018-02-28 19:54     ` Kees Cook
2018-03-01 13:52       ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-02  7:17 ` 097eb0af45: kernel_BUG_at_mm/hugetlb.c kernel test robot

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