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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Synchronize task mm counters on context switch
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 22:06:14 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180222130614.GA74788@rodete-desktop-imager.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180222094009.GO25201@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:40:09AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:06:33AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 04:23:43PM -0800, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> > >  kernel/sched/core.c | 3 +++
> > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > index a7bf32aabfda..7f197a7698ee 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > @@ -3429,6 +3429,9 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void)
> > >         struct task_struct *tsk = current;
> > >
> > >         sched_submit_work(tsk);
> > > +       if (tsk->mm)
> > > +               sync_mm_rss(tsk->mm);
> > > +
> > >         do {
> > >                 preempt_disable();
> > >                 __schedule(false);
> > >
> 
> Obviously I completely hate that; and you really _should_ have Cc'ed me
> earlier ;-)
> 
> That it still well over 100 cycles in the case when all counters did
> change. Far _far_ more if the mm counters are contended (up to 150 times
> more is quite possible).
> 
> > > > > Ping? Is this approach just a bad idea? We could instead just manually sync
> > > > > all mm-attached tasks at counter-retrieval time.
> > > >
> > > > IMHO, yes, it should be done when user want to see which would be really
> > > > cold path while this shecule function is hot.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > The problem with doing it that way is that we need to look at each task
> > > attached to a particular mm. AFAIK (and please tell me if I'm wrong), the
> > > only way to do that is to iterate over all processes, and for each process
> > > attached to the mm we want, iterate over all its tasks (since each one has
> > > to have the same mm, I think). Does that sound right?
> 
> You could just iterate the thread group and call it a day. Yes strictly
> speaking its possible to have mm's shared outside the thread group,
> practically that 'never' happens.
> 
> CLONE_VM without CLONE_THREAD just isn't a popular thing afaik.

That was a part I was not sure. ;-)

> 
> So while its not perfect, it might well be good enough.

If it's acceptable for everybody, yub, it's surely preferable, which sync
stats through the thread group at counter-retrieval time.

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-22 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-05 22:03 Daniel Colascione
2018-02-21 19:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-22  0:16   ` Minchan Kim
2018-02-22  0:23     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-22  2:06       ` Minchan Kim
2018-02-22  2:46         ` [PATCH] Synchronize task mm counters on demand Daniel Colascione
2018-02-23  2:01           ` Minchan Kim
2018-02-23  2:09             ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-23  2:24               ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-23  2:28               ` Minchan Kim
2018-02-23  2:43                 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-23  3:12                   ` Minchan Kim
2018-02-23  9:50           ` f66871fb4c: WARNING:inconsistent_lock_state kernel test robot
2018-02-22  2:49         ` [PATCH] Synchronize task mm counters on context switch Daniel Colascione
2018-02-23  8:11           ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-23 16:34             ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-23 17:50               ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-23 18:47                 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-27 10:02                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-22  9:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-22 13:06           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2018-02-22 16:23           ` Daniel Colascione

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