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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Robert Harris <robert.m.harris@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Kangmin Park <l4stpr0gr4m@gmail.com>,
	Yisheng Xie <xieyisheng1@huawei.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Vinayak Menon <vinmenon@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm, compaction: correct the bounds of __fragmentation_index()
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:10:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180219131024.oqonm6ba3pl2l4qa@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CB73A16F-5B32-4681-86E3-00786C67ADEF@oracle.com>

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:26:39PM +0000, Robert Harris wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 19 Feb 2018, at 09:47, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 04:47:55PM +0000, robert.m.harris@oracle.com wrote:
> >> From: "Robert M. Harris" <robert.m.harris@oracle.com>
> >> 
> >> __fragmentation_index() calculates a value used to determine whether
> >> compaction should be favoured over page reclaim in the event of allocation
> >> failure.  The calculation itself is opaque and, on inspection, does not
> >> match its existing description.  The function purports to return a value
> >> between 0 and 1000, representing units of 1/1000.  Barring the case of a
> >> pathological shortfall of memory, the lower bound is instead 500.  This is
> >> significant because it is the default value of sysctl_extfrag_threshold,
> >> i.e. the value below which compaction should be avoided in favour of page
> >> reclaim for costly pages.
> >> 
> >> This patch implements and documents a modified version of the original
> >> expression that returns a value in the range 0 <= index < 1000.  It amends
> >> the default value of sysctl_extfrag_threshold to preserve the existing
> >> behaviour.
> >> 
> >> Signed-off-by: Robert M. Harris <robert.m.harris@oracle.com>
> > 
> > You have to update sysctl_extfrag_threshold as well for the new bounds.
> 
> This patch makes its default value zero.
> 

Sorry, I'm clearly blind.

> > It effectively makes it a no-op but it was a no-op already and adjusting
> > that default should be supported by data indicating it's safe.
> 
> Would it be acceptable to demonstrate using tracing that in both the
> pre- and post-patch cases
> 
>   1. compaction is attempted regardless of fragmentation index,
>      excepting that
> 
>   2. reclaim is preferred even for non-zero fragmentation during
>      an extreme shortage of memory
> 

If you can demonstrate that for both reclaim-intensive and
compaction-intensive workloads then yes. Also include the reclaim and
compaction stats from /proc/vmstat and not just tracepoints to demonstrate
that reclaim doesn't get out of control and reclaim the world in
response to failed high-order allocations such as THP.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-19 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-18 16:47 [PATCH 0/1] " robert.m.harris
2018-02-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 1/1] " robert.m.harris
2018-02-19  8:26   ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-19 12:14     ` Robert Harris
2018-02-19 12:39       ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-19 14:30         ` Robert Harris
2018-02-23  9:10           ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-23 13:40             ` Robert Harris
2018-02-23 13:52               ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-19  9:47   ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-19 12:26     ` Robert Harris
2018-02-19 13:10       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2018-02-19 14:37         ` Robert Harris
2018-02-19  8:24 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Michal Hocko
2018-02-19 11:40   ` Robert Harris

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