From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>
Cc: christian.koenig@amd.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Per file OOM badness
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:42:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180130104216.GR25930@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3db43c1a-59b8-af86-2b87-c783c629f512@daenzer.net>
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:43:10AM +0100, Michel Danzer wrote:
> On 2018-01-30 10:31 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 01:11:09PM +0100, Christian Konig wrote:
> >> Am 24.01.2018 um 12:50 schrieb Michal Hocko:
> >>> On Wed 24-01-18 12:23:10, Michel Danzer wrote:
> >>>> On 2018-01-24 12:01 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed 24-01-18 11:27:15, Michel Danzer wrote:
> >>> [...]
> >>>>>> 2. If the OOM killer kills a process which is sharing BOs with another
> >>>>>> process, this should result in the other process dropping its references
> >>>>>> to the BOs as well, at which point the memory is released.
> >>>>> OK. How exactly are those BOs mapped to the userspace?
> >>>> I'm not sure what you're asking. Userspace mostly uses a GEM handle to
> >>>> refer to a BO. There can also be userspace CPU mappings of the BO's
> >>>> memory, but userspace doesn't need CPU mappings for all BOs and only
> >>>> creates them as needed.
> >>> OK, I guess you have to bear with me some more. This whole stack is a
> >>> complete uknonwn. I am mostly after finding a boundary where you can
> >>> charge the allocated memory to the process so that the oom killer can
> >>> consider it. Is there anything like that? Except for the proposed file
> >>> handle hack?
> >>
> >> Not that I knew of.
> >>
> >> As I said before we need some kind of callback that a process now starts to
> >> use a file descriptor, but without anything from that file descriptor mapped
> >> into the address space.
> >
> > For more context: With DRI3 and wayland the compositor opens the DRM fd
> > and then passes it to the client, which then starts allocating stuff. That
> > makes book-keeping rather annoying.
>
> Actually, what you're describing is only true for the buffers shared by
> an X server with an X11 compositor. For the actual applications, the
> buffers are created on the client side and then shared with the X server
> / Wayland compositor.
>
> Anyway, it doesn't really matter. In all cases, the buffers are actually
> used by all parties that are sharing them, so charging the memory to all
> of them is perfectly appropriate.
>
>
> > I guess a good first order approximation would be if we simply charge any
> > newly allocated buffers to the process that created them, but that means
> > hanging onto lots of mm_struct pointers since we want to make sure we then
> > release those pages to the right mm again (since the process that drops
> > the last ref might be a totally different one, depending upon how the
> > buffers or DRM fd have been shared).
> >
> > Would it be ok to hang onto potentially arbitrary mmget references
> > essentially forever? If that's ok I think we can do your process based
> > account (minus a few minor inaccuracies for shared stuff perhaps, but no
> > one cares about that).
>
> Honestly, I think you and Christian are overthinking this. Let's try
> charging the memory to every process which shares a buffer, and go from
> there.
I'm not concerned about wrongly accounting shared buffers (they don't
matter), but imbalanced accounting. I.e. allocate a buffer in the client,
share it, but then the compositor drops the last reference.
If we store the mm_struct pointer in drm_gem_object, we don't need any
callback from the vfs when fds are shared or anything like that. We can
simply account any newly allocated buffers to the current->mm, and then
store that later for dropping the account for when the gem obj is
released. This would entirely ignore any complications with shared
buffers, which I think we can do because even when we pass the DRM fd to a
different process, the actual buffer allocations are not passed around
like that for private buffers. And private buffers are the only ones that
really matter.
-Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-30 10:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-18 16:47 Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs: add OOM badness callback in file_operatrations struct Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 2/4] oom: take per file badness into account Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 3/4] drm/gem: adjust per file OOM badness on handling buffers Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-19 6:01 ` Chunming Zhou
2018-01-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/amdgpu: Use drm_oom_badness for amdgpu Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-30 9:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-01-30 12:42 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-18 17:00 ` [RFC] Per file OOM badness Michal Hocko
2018-01-18 17:13 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-18 20:01 ` Eric Anholt
2018-01-19 8:20 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 8:39 ` Christian König
2018-01-19 9:32 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-19 9:58 ` Christian König
2018-01-19 10:02 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-19 15:07 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-21 6:50 ` Eric Anholt
2018-01-19 10:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 11:37 ` Christian König
2018-01-19 12:13 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 12:20 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 16:54 ` Christian König
2018-01-23 11:39 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 16:48 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-19 8:35 ` Christian König
2018-01-19 6:01 ` He, Roger
2018-01-19 8:25 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 10:02 ` roger
2018-01-23 15:27 ` Roman Gushchin
2018-01-23 15:36 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 16:39 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-24 9:28 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 10:27 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-24 11:01 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 11:23 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-24 11:50 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 12:11 ` Christian König
2018-01-30 9:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-01-30 9:43 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 10:40 ` Christian König
2018-01-30 11:02 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 11:28 ` Christian König
2018-01-30 11:34 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 11:36 ` Nicolai Hähnle
2018-01-30 11:42 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 11:56 ` Christian König
2018-01-30 15:52 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 10:42 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2018-01-30 10:48 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 11:35 ` Nicolai Hähnle
2018-01-24 14:31 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 9:29 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 10:28 ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-26 14:36 ` Lucas Stach
2018-04-04 9:09 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-04-04 9:36 ` Lucas Stach
2018-04-04 9:46 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-19 5:39 ` He, Roger
2018-01-19 8:17 ` Christian König
2018-01-22 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-23 1:59 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
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