From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] free_pcppages_bulk: prefetch buddy while not holding lock
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 18:19:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180124181921.vnivr32q72ey7p5i@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <148a42d8-8306-2f2f-7f7c-86bc118f8ccd@intel.com>
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 08:57:43AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 01/24/2018 08:43 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > I'm less convinced by this for a microbenchmark. Prefetch has not been a
> > universal win in the past and we cannot be sure that it's a good idea on
> > all architectures or doesn't have other side-effects such as consuming
> > memory bandwidth for data we don't need or evicting cache hot data for
> > buddy information that is not used.
>
> I had the same reaction.
>
> But, I think this case is special. We *always* do buddy merging (well,
> before the next patch in the series is applied) and check an order-0
> page's buddy to try to merge it when it goes into the main allocator.
> So, the cacheline will always come in.
>
> IOW, I don't think this has the same downsides normally associated with
> prefetch() since the data is always used.
That doesn't side-step the calculations are done twice in the
free_pcppages_bulk path and there is no guarantee that one prefetch
in the list of pages being freed will not evict a previous prefetch
due to collisions. At least on the machine I'm writing this from, the
prefetches necessary for a standard drain are 1/16th of the L1D cache so
some collisions/evictions are possible. We're doing definite work in one
path on the chance it'll still be cache-resident when it's recalculated.
I suspect that only a microbenchmark that is doing very large amounts of
frees (or a large munmap or exit) will notice and the costs of a large
munmap/exit are so high that the prefetch will be negligible savings.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-24 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-24 2:30 [PATCH 1/2] free_pcppages_bulk: do not hold lock when picking pages to free Aaron Lu
2018-01-24 2:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] free_pcppages_bulk: prefetch buddy while not holding lock Aaron Lu
2018-01-24 16:43 ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-24 16:57 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-24 18:19 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2018-01-24 19:23 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-24 21:12 ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-25 7:25 ` [PATCH v2 " Aaron Lu
2018-01-24 16:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] free_pcppages_bulk: do not hold lock when picking pages to free Mel Gorman
2018-01-25 7:21 ` [PATCH v2 " Aaron Lu
2018-02-15 12:06 ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-23 1:37 ` Aaron Lu
2018-02-15 12:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-15 14:55 ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-23 1:42 ` Aaron Lu
2018-02-05 5:30 ` RFC: eliminate zone->lock contention for will-it-scale/page_fault1 on big server Aaron Lu
2018-02-05 5:31 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] __free_one_page: skip merge for order-0 page unless compaction is in progress Aaron Lu
2018-02-05 22:17 ` Dave Hansen
2018-02-05 5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] rmqueue_bulk: avoid touching page structures under zone->lock Aaron Lu
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