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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>,
	Andrey Grodzovsky <andrey.grodzovsky@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Per file OOM badness
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:39:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180123113912.GH1526@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c7b0616-97ba-01e7-0053-bf224ca5b5f2@amd.com>

On Fri 19-01-18 17:54:36, Christian Konig wrote:
> Am 19.01.2018 um 13:20 schrieb Michal Hocko:
> > On Fri 19-01-18 13:13:51, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Fri 19-01-18 12:37:51, Christian Konig wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > The per file descriptor badness is/was just the much easier approach to
> > > > solve the issue, because the drivers already knew which client is currently
> > > > using which buffer objects.
> > > > 
> > > > I of course agree that file descriptors can be shared between processes and
> > > > are by themselves not killable. But at least for our graphics driven use
> > > > case I don't see much of a problem killing all processes when a file
> > > > descriptor is used by more than one at the same time.
> > > Ohh, I absolutely see why you have chosen this way for your particular
> > > usecase. I am just arguing that this would rather be more generic to be
> > > merged. If there is absolutely no other way around we can consider it
> > > but right now I do not see that all other options have been considered
> > > properly. Especially when the fd based approach is basically wrong for
> > > almost anybody else.
> > And more importantly. Iterating over _all_ fd which is what is your
> > approach is based on AFAIU is not acceptable for the OOM path. Even
> > though oom_badness is not a hot path we do not really want it to take a
> > lot of time either. Even the current iteration over all processes is
> > quite time consuming. Now you want to add the number of opened files and
> > that might be quite many per process.
> 
> Mhm, crap that is a really good argument.
> 
> How about adding a linked list of callbacks to check for the OOM killer to
> check for each process?
> 
> This way we can avoid finding the process where we need to account things on
> when memory is allocated and still allow the OOM killer to only check the
> specific callbacks it needs to determine the score of a process?

I might be oversimplifying but there really have to be a boundary when
you have the target user context, no? Then do the accounting when you
get data to the user.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-23 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-18 16:47 Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs: add OOM badness callback in file_operatrations struct Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 2/4] oom: take per file badness into account Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 3/4] drm/gem: adjust per file OOM badness on handling buffers Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-19  6:01   ` Chunming Zhou
2018-01-18 16:47 ` [PATCH 4/4] drm/amdgpu: Use drm_oom_badness for amdgpu Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-30  9:24   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-01-30 12:42     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2018-01-18 17:00 ` [RFC] Per file OOM badness Michal Hocko
2018-01-18 17:13   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-18 20:01     ` Eric Anholt
2018-01-19  8:20       ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19  8:39         ` Christian König
2018-01-19  9:32           ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-19  9:58             ` Christian König
2018-01-19 10:02               ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-19 15:07                 ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-21  6:50                   ` Eric Anholt
2018-01-19 10:40           ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 11:37             ` Christian König
2018-01-19 12:13               ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 12:20                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 16:54                   ` Christian König
2018-01-23 11:39                     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-01-19 16:48               ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-19  8:35       ` Christian König
2018-01-19  6:01     ` He, Roger
2018-01-19  8:25       ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 10:02         ` roger
2018-01-23 15:27   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-01-23 15:36     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 16:39       ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-24  9:28         ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 10:27           ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-24 11:01             ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 11:23               ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-24 11:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 12:11                   ` Christian König
2018-01-30  9:31                     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-01-30  9:43                       ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 10:40                         ` Christian König
2018-01-30 11:02                           ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 11:28                             ` Christian König
2018-01-30 11:34                               ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 11:36                                 ` Nicolai Hähnle
2018-01-30 11:42                                   ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 11:56                                     ` Christian König
2018-01-30 15:52                                       ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 10:42                         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-01-30 10:48                           ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 11:35                             ` Nicolai Hähnle
2018-01-24 14:31                   ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30  9:29                   ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-30 10:28                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-26 14:36                       ` Lucas Stach
2018-04-04  9:09                         ` Michel Dänzer
2018-04-04  9:36                           ` Lucas Stach
2018-04-04  9:46                             ` Michel Dänzer
2018-01-19  5:39 ` He, Roger
2018-01-19  8:17   ` Christian König
2018-01-22 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-23  1:59   ` Andrey Grodzovsky

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