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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Minchan Kim" <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Tim Chen" <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Shaohua Li" <shli@fb.com>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>, "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Dave Jiang" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Aaron Lu" <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm -V2] mm, swap: Fix race between swapoff and some swap operations
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 11:04:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171215100443.GX16951@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171214124246.ceebc9c955bd32601c01a28b@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu 14-12-17 12:42:46, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:17:18 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > > as fast as possible, SRCU instead of reference count is used to
> > > implement get/put_swap_device().  From get_swap_device() to
> > > put_swap_device(), the reader side of SRCU is locked, so
> > > synchronize_srcu() in swapoff() will wait until put_swap_device() is
> > > called.
> > 
> > It is quite unfortunate to pull SRCU as a dependency to the core kernel.
> > Different attempts to do this have failed in the past. This one is
> > slightly different though because I would suspect that those tiny
> > systems do not configure swap. But who knows, maybe they do.
> > 
> > Anyway, if you are worried about performance then I would expect some
> > numbers to back that worry. So why don't simply start with simpler
> > ref count based and then optimize it later based on some actual numbers.
> > Btw. have you considered pcp refcount framework. I would suspect that
> > this would give you close to SRCU performance.
> 
> <squeaky-wheel>Or use stop_kernel() ;)</squeaky-wheel>

well, stop_kernel is a _huge_ hammer. I think we can do much better
without a large complexity. A simple ref counting (or pcp refcounting if
the former has measurable complexity) should do just fine.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-15 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-14 13:38 Huang, Ying
2017-12-14 15:17 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-14 20:42   ` Andrew Morton
2017-12-15  1:57     ` Huang, Ying
2017-12-15 10:04     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-12-15 22:27       ` Andrew Morton
2017-12-15  1:33   ` Huang, Ying
2017-12-15  5:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-12-15  6:37     ` Huang, Ying

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