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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: mhocko@kernel.org, minchan@kernel.org, ying.huang@intel.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, shakeelb@google.com,
	gthelen@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm,vmscan: Kill global shrinker lock.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:28:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171115132836.GA6524@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201711151958.CBI60413.FHQMtFLFOOSOJV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 07:58:09PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> I think that Minchan's approach depends on how
> 
>   In our production, we have observed that the job loader gets stuck for
>   10s of seconds while doing mount operation. It turns out that it was
>   stuck in register_shrinker() and some unrelated job was under memory
>   pressure and spending time in shrink_slab(). Our machines have a lot
>   of shrinkers registered and jobs under memory pressure has to traverse
>   all of those memcg-aware shrinkers and do affect unrelated jobs which
>   want to register their own shrinkers.
> 
> is interpreted. If there were 100000 shrinkers and each do_shrink_slab() call
> took 1 millisecond, aborting the iteration as soon as rwsem_is_contended() would
> help a lot. But if there were 10 shrinkers and each do_shrink_slab() call took
> 10 seconds, aborting the iteration as soon as rwsem_is_contended() would help
> less. Or, there might be some specific shrinker where its do_shrink_slab() call
> takes 100 seconds. In that case, checking rwsem_is_contended() is too lazy.

In your patch, unregister() waits for shrinker->nr_active instead of
the lock, which is decreased in the same location where Minchan drops
the lock. How is that different behavior for long-running shrinkers?

Anyway, I suspect it's many shrinkers and many concurrent invocations,
so the lockbreak granularity you both chose should be fine.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-15 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-13 21:37 Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-13 21:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,vmscan: Allow parallel registration/unregistration of shrinkers Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-13 22:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,vmscan: Kill global shrinker lock Shakeel Butt
2017-11-15  0:56 ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-15  6:28   ` Shakeel Butt
2017-11-16  0:46     ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-16  1:41       ` Shakeel Butt
2017-11-16  4:50         ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-15  8:56   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-15  9:18     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-16 17:44   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-11-23 23:46     ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-15  9:02 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-15 10:58   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-15 11:51     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-16  0:56       ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-15 13:28     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2017-11-16 10:56       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-15 14:00   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-11-15 14:11     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-25  2:04       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-25  8:36         ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-25 10:56           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-25 11:41             ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-25 22:19             ` Eric Wheeler
2018-01-26  3:12               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-26 10:08                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-17 17:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-17 17:41   ` Shakeel Butt
2017-11-17 17:53     ` Shakeel Butt
2017-11-17 18:36     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-20  9:25   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-20  9:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-20  9:42       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-20 10:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-20 10:56           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-20 18:28             ` Paul E. McKenney

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