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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, aarcange@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	rientjes@google.com, mjaggi@caviumnetworks.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	oleg@redhat.com, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, vbabka@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm,oom: Try last second allocation after selecting an OOM victim.
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 17:05:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171025150548.nvuwc3y3m5vi23uk@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201710252358.IIA46427.HFFSOOOQLtFMJV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed 25-10-17 23:58:33, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 25-10-17 21:15:24, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Wed 25-10-17 19:48:09, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > > The OOM killer is the last hand break. At the time you hit the OOM
> > > > > > condition your system is usually hard to use anyway. And that is why I
> > > > > > do care to make this path deadlock free. I have mentioned multiple times
> > > > > > that I find real life triggers much more important than artificial DoS
> > > > > > like workloads which make your system unsuable long before you hit OOM
> > > > > > killer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Unable to invoke the OOM killer (i.e. OOM lockup) is worse than hand break injury.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you do care to make this path deadlock free, you had better stop depending on
> > > > > mutex_trylock(&oom_lock). Not only printk() from oom_kill_process() can trigger
> > > > > deadlock due to console_sem versus oom_lock dependency but also
> > > > 
> > > > And this means that we have to fix printk. Completely silent oom path is
> > > > out of question IMHO
> > > 
> > > We cannot fix printk() without giving enough CPU resource to printk().
> > 
> > This is a separate discussion but having a basically unbound time spent
> > in printk is simply a no-go.
> >  
> > > I don't think "Completely silent oom path" can happen, for warn_alloc() is called
> > > again when it is retried. But anyway, let's remove warn_alloc().
> > 
> > I mean something else. We simply cannot do the oom killing without
> > telling userspace about that. And printk is the only API we can use for
> > that.
> 
> I thought something like
> 
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -3872,6 +3872,7 @@ bool gfp_pfmemalloc_allowed(gfp_t gfp_mask)
>         unsigned int stall_timeout = 10 * HZ;
>         unsigned int cpuset_mems_cookie;
>         int reserve_flags;
> +       static DEFINE_MUTEX(warn_lock);
> 
>         /*
>          * In the slowpath, we sanity check order to avoid ever trying to
> @@ -4002,11 +4003,15 @@ bool gfp_pfmemalloc_allowed(gfp_t gfp_mask)
>                 goto nopage;
> 
>         /* Make sure we know about allocations which stall for too long */
> -       if (time_after(jiffies, alloc_start + stall_timeout)) {
> -               warn_alloc(gfp_mask & ~__GFP_NOWARN, ac->nodemask,
> -                       "page allocation stalls for %ums, order:%u",
> -                       jiffies_to_msecs(jiffies-alloc_start), order);
> -               stall_timeout += 10 * HZ;
> +       if (time_after(jiffies, alloc_start + stall_timeout) &&
> +           mutex_trylock(&warn_lock)) {
> +               if (!mutex_is_locked(&oom_lock)) {

The check for oom_lock just doesn't make any sense. The lock can be take
at any time after the check.

> +                       warn_alloc(gfp_mask & ~__GFP_NOWARN, ac->nodemask,
> +                                  "page allocation stalls for %ums, order:%u",
> +                                  jiffies_to_msecs(jiffies-alloc_start), order);
> +                       stall_timeout += 10 * HZ;
> +               }
> +               mutex_unlock(&warn_lock);
>         }
> 
>         /* Avoid recursion of direct reclaim */
> 
> for isolating the OOM killer messages and the stall warning messages (in order to
> break continuation condition in console_unlock()), and
> 
> @@ -3294,7 +3294,7 @@ void warn_alloc(gfp_t gfp_mask, nodemask_t *nodemask, const char *fmt, ...)
>          * Acquire the oom lock.  If that fails, somebody else is
>          * making progress for us.
>          */
> -       if (!mutex_trylock(&oom_lock)) {
> +       if (mutex_lock_killable(&oom_lock)) {
>                 *did_some_progress = 1;
>                 schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(1);
>                 return NULL;
> 
> for giving printk() enough CPU resource.
> 
> What you thought is avoid using printk() from out_of_memory() in case enough
> CPU resource is not given, isn't it? Then, that is out of question.

No I meant that we simply _have to_ use printk from the OOM killer.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-25 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1503577106-9196-1-git-send-email-penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2017-08-24 12:18 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-24 13:18   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-24 14:40     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-25  8:00       ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-09  0:55         ` Tetsuo Handa
     [not found]           ` <201710172204.AGG30740.tVHJFFOQLMSFOO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2017-10-20 12:40             ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-20 14:18               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-23 11:30                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-24 11:24                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-24 11:41                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-25 10:48                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-25 11:09                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-25 12:15                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-25 12:41                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-25 14:58                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-25 15:05                                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-10-25 15:34                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-24 13:03 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,page_alloc: Don't call __node_reclaim() with oom_lock held Michal Hocko
2017-08-25 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-26  1:28   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-27  4:17     ` Tetsuo Handa

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