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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-team@lge.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: Introduce CROSSRELEASE_STACK_TRACE and make it not unwind as default
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:10:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171019081053.2mmzzjgfwgtv5lz3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171019062255.GC3310@X58A-UD3R>


* Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 03:11:12PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 07:57:30AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:09:44PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > > BTW., have you attempted limiting the depth of the stack traces? I suspect more 
> > > > > than 2-4 are rarely required to disambiguate the calling context.
> > > > 
> > > > I did it for you. Let me show you the result.
> > > > 
> > > > 1. No lockdep:				2.756558155 seconds time elapsed                ( +-  0.09% )
> > > > 2. Lockdep:					2.968710420 seconds time elapsed		( +-  0.12% )
> > > > 3. Lockdep + Crossrelease 5 entries:		3.153839636 seconds time elapsed                ( +-  0.31% )
> > > > 4. Lockdep + Crossrelease 3 entries:		3.137205534 seconds time elapsed                ( +-  0.87% )
> > > > 5. Lockdep + Crossrelease + This patch:	2.963669551 seconds time elapsed		( +-  0.11% )
> > > 
> > > I think the lockdep + crossrelease + full-stack numbers are missing?
> > 
> > Ah, the last version of crossrelease merged into vanilla, records 5
> > entries, since I thought it overloads too much if full stack is used,
> > and 5 entries are enough. Don't you think so?
> > 
> > > But yeah, looks like single-entry-stacktrace crossrelease only has a +0.2% 
> > > performance cost (with 0.1% noise), while lockdep itself has a +7.7% cost.
> > > 
> > > That's very reasonable and we can keep the single-entry cross-release feature 
> > > enabled by default as part of CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING=y - assuming all the crashes 
> > 
> > BTW, is there any crash by cross-release I don't know? Of course, I know
> > cases of false positives, but I don't about crash.
> 
> Are you talking about the oops by 'null pointer dereference' by unwinder a
> few weeks ago?
> 
> At the time, cross-release was falsely accused. AFAIK, cross-release has
> not crashed system yet.

I'm talking about the crash fixed here:

  8b405d5c5d09: locking/lockdep: Fix stacktrace mess

Which was introduced by your patch:

  ce07a9415f26: locking/lockdep: Make check_prev_add() able to handle external stack_trace

... which was a preparatory patch for cross-release. So 'technically' it's not a 
cross-release crash, but was very much related. It even says so in the changelog:

  Actually crossrelease needs to do other than saving a stack_trace.
  So pass a stack_trace and callback to handle it, to check_prev_add().

... so let's not pretend it wasn't related, ok?

Thanks,

	Ingo

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-19  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-18  9:13 Byungchul Park
2017-10-18  9:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: Remove BROKEN flag of LOCKDEP_CROSSRELEASE Byungchul Park
2017-10-18 10:12   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  1:58     ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-18 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: Introduce CROSSRELEASE_STACK_TRACE and make it not unwind as default Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  4:32   ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19  5:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  6:11       ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19  6:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  6:36           ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19  8:05             ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  6:22         ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19  8:10           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-10-19  9:02             ` 박병철/선임연구원/SW Platform(연)AOT팀(byungchul.park@lge.com)
2017-10-19  9:41               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-18 13:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 13:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-18 13:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 14:15       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-18 14:35         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 17:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  2:00       ` Byungchul Park

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