From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: yuwang668899@gmail.com, vbabka@suse.cz, mpatocka@redhat.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, mgorman@suse.de, dave.hansen@intel.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
chenggang.qcg@alibaba-inc.com, yuwang.yuwang@alibaba-inc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: softlockup on warn_alloc on
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:23:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170915142357.vpuwiv3gzdjtn2vr@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201709152312.EGB69283.VFQOOtFMOFHJSL@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
On Fri 15-09-17 23:12:24, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 15-09-17 21:09:29, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Fri 15-09-17 20:38:49, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > You said "identify _why_ we see the lockup trigerring in the first
> > > > > place" without providing means to identify it. Unless you provide
> > > > > means to identify it (in a form which can be immediately and easily
> > > > > backported to 4.9 kernels; that is, backporting not-yet-accepted
> > > > > printk() offloading patchset is not a choice), this patch cannot be
> > > > > refused.
> > > >
> > > > I fail to see why. It simply workarounds an existing problem elsewhere
> > > > in the kernel without deeper understanding on where the problem is. You
> > > > can add your own instrumentation to debug and describe the problem. This
> > > > is no different to any other kernel bugs...
> > >
> > > Please do show us your patch for that. Normal users cannot afford developing
> > > such instrumentation to debug and describe the problem.
> >
> > Stop this nonsense already! Any kernel bug/lockup needs a debugging
> > which might be non-trivial and it is necessary to understand the real
> > culprit. We do not add random hacks to silence a problem. We aim at
> > fixing it!
>
> Assuming that Wang Yu's trace has
>
> RIP: 0010:[<...>] [<...>] dump_stack+0x.../0x...
>
> line in the omitted part (like Cong Wang's trace did), I suspect that a thread
> which is holding dump_lock is unable to leave console_unlock() from printk() for
> so long because many other threads are trying to call printk() from warn_alloc()
> while consuming all CPU time.
__dump_stack should be an atomic context AFAIR. But as we already
discussed some time ago this lock is not fair and one function might
bounce for too long.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-15 14:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-15 9:58 wang Yu
2017-09-15 10:39 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-15 11:38 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-15 12:00 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-15 12:09 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-15 12:14 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-15 14:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-15 14:23 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-09-24 1:56 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-15 14:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-15 15:23 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-15 18:44 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-16 0:25 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-18 6:05 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-18 6:31 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-18 6:43 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-16 4:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-11 11:14 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-18 10:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-18 6:03 ` Michal Hocko
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