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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: respect the __GFP_NOWARN flag when warning about stalls
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:54:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170913115442.4tpbiwu77y7lrz6g@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1709111926480.31898@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>

On Mon 11-09-17 19:36:59, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 11-09-17 02:52:53, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > I am occasionally getting these warnings in khugepaged. It is an old 
> > > machine with 550MHz CPU and 512 MB RAM.
> > > 
> > > Note that khugepaged has nice value 19, so when the machine is loaded with 
> > > some work, khugepaged is stalled and this stall produces warning in the 
> > > allocator.
> > > 
> > > khugepaged does allocations with __GFP_NOWARN, but the flag __GFP_NOWARN
> > > is masked off when calling warn_alloc. This patch removes the masking of
> > > __GFP_NOWARN, so that the warning is suppressed.
> > > 
> > > khugepaged: page allocation stalls for 10273ms, order:10, mode:0x4340ca(__GFP_HIGHMEM|__GFP_IO|__GFP_FS|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_NOMEMALLOC|__GFP_HARDWALL|__GFP_MOVABLE|__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM), nodemask=(null)
> > > CPU: 0 PID: 3936 Comm: khugepaged Not tainted 4.12.3 #1
> > > Hardware name: System Manufacturer Product Name/VA-503A, BIOS 4.51 PG 08/02/00
> > > Call Trace:
> > >  ? warn_alloc+0xb9/0x140
> > >  ? __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x724/0x880
> > >  ? arch_irq_stat_cpu+0x1/0x40
> > >  ? detach_if_pending+0x80/0x80
> > >  ? khugepaged+0x10a/0x1d40
> > >  ? pick_next_task_fair+0xd2/0x180
> > >  ? wait_woken+0x60/0x60
> > >  ? kthread+0xcf/0x100
> > >  ? release_pte_page+0x40/0x40
> > >  ? kthread_create_on_node+0x40/0x40
> > >  ? ret_from_fork+0x19/0x30
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > Fixes: 63f53dea0c98 ("mm: warn about allocations which stall for too long")
> > 
> > This patch hasn't introduced this behavior. It deliberately skipped
> > warning on __GFP_NOWARN. This has been introduced later by 822519634142
> > ("mm: page_alloc: __GFP_NOWARN shouldn't suppress stall warnings"). I
> > disagreed [1] but overall consensus was that such a warning won't be
> > harmful. Could you be more specific why do you consider it wrong,
> > please?
> 
> I consider the warning wrong, because it warns when nothing goes wrong. 
> I've got 7 these warnings for 4 weeks of uptime. The warnings typically 
> happen when I run some compilation.
> 
> A process with low priority is expected to be running slowly when there's 
> some high-priority process, so there's no need to warn that the 
> low-priority process runs slowly.

I would tend to agree. It is certainly a noise in the log. And a kind of
thing I was worried about when objecting the patch previously. 
 
> What else can be done to avoid the warning? Skip the warning if the 
> process has lower priority?

No, I wouldn't play with priorities. Either we agree that NOWARN
allocations simply do _not_warn_ or we simply explain users that some of
those warnings might not be that critical and overloaded system might
show them.

Let's see what others think about this.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-13 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-11  6:52 Mikulas Patocka
2017-09-11  8:26 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-11 23:36   ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-09-12  7:14     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-09-13 14:52       ` Shakeel Butt
2017-09-13 11:54     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-09-13 13:54       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-13 14:03         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-09-13 14:14           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-13 14:35             ` Michal Hocko

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