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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Juerg Haefliger <juerg.haefliger@canonical.com>
Cc: Tycho Andersen <tycho@docker.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Marco Benatto <marco.antonio.780@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v5 04/10] arm64: Add __flush_tlb_one()
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 10:47:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170831094726.GB15031@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b50951e4-0b80-6d0e-39ed-fd9d67a51db3@canonical.com>

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:43:53AM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote:
> On 08/30/2017 06:47 PM, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 07:31:25AM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/23/2017 07:04 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:58:42AM -0600, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> >>>> Hi Mark,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >>>>> That said, is there any reason not to use flush_tlb_kernel_range()
> >>>>> directly?
> >>>>
> >>>> So it turns out that there is a difference between __flush_tlb_one() and
> >>>> flush_tlb_kernel_range() on x86: flush_tlb_kernel_range() flushes all the TLBs
> >>>> via on_each_cpu(), where as __flush_tlb_one() only flushes the local TLB (which
> >>>> I think is enough here).
> >>>
> >>> That sounds suspicious; I don't think that __flush_tlb_one() is
> >>> sufficient.
> >>>
> >>> If you only do local TLB maintenance, then the page is left accessible
> >>> to other CPUs via the (stale) kernel mappings. i.e. the page isn't
> >>> exclusively mapped by userspace.
> >>
> >> We flush all CPUs to get rid of stale entries when a new page is
> >> allocated to userspace that was previously allocated to the kernel.
> >> Is that the scenario you were thinking of?
> > 
> > I think there are two cases, the one you describe above, where the
> > pages are first allocated, and a second one, where e.g. the pages are
> > mapped into the kernel because of DMA or whatever. In the case you
> > describe above, I think we're doing the right thing (which is why my
> > test worked correctly, because it tested this case).
> > 
> > In the second case, when the pages are unmapped (i.e. the kernel is
> > done doing DMA), do we need to flush the other CPUs TLBs? I think the
> > current code is not quite correct, because if multiple tasks (CPUs)
> > map the pages, only the TLB of the last one is flushed when the
> > mapping is cleared, because the tlb is only flushed when ->mapcount
> > drops to zero, leaving stale entries in the other TLBs. It's not clear
> > to me what to do about this case.
> 
> For this to happen, multiple CPUs need to have the same userspace page
> mapped at the same time. Is this a valid scenario?

I believe so. I think you could trigger that with a multi-threaded
application running across several CPUs. All those threads would share
the same page tables.

Thanks,
Mark.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-09 20:07 [PATCH v5 00/10] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] mm: add MAP_HUGETLB support to vm_mmap Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] mm, x86: Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) Tycho Andersen
2017-08-14 18:51   ` Laura Abbott
2017-08-14 22:30   ` Laura Abbott
2017-08-15  3:47     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-15  3:51       ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] swiotlb: Map the buffer if it was unmapped by XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-08-10 13:01   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-10 16:22     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-20 16:19   ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-20 22:47     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-20 23:25       ` Dave Hansen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] arm64: Add __flush_tlb_one() Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 11:26   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 16:35     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-14 16:50       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 17:01         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-23 16:58         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-23 17:04           ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-23 17:13             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-24 15:45               ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-29 17:24                 ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-30  5:31             ` Juerg Haefliger
2017-08-30 16:47               ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-31  9:43                 ` Juerg Haefliger
2017-08-31  9:47                   ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-08-31 21:21                     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] arm64/mm: Add support for XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-08-11 18:01   ` [kernel-hardening] " Laura Abbott
2017-08-11 20:19     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] arm64/mm: Disable section mappings if XPFO is enabled Tycho Andersen
2017-08-11 17:25   ` [kernel-hardening] " Laura Abbott
2017-08-11 21:13     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-11 21:52       ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 11:17       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 16:22         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-14 18:42           ` Laura Abbott
2017-08-14 20:28             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] arm64/mm: Don't flush the data cache if the page is unmapped by XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 11:57   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 16:54     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 20:27     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-15  9:39       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] arm64/mm: Add support for XPFO to swiotlb Tycho Andersen
2017-08-10 13:11   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-10 16:35     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] mm: add a user_virt_to_phys symbol Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] lkdtm: Add test for XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 20:24   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-14 16:21     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 21:05   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-14 19:10   ` Kees Cook
2017-08-14 20:29     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-11 23:35 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v5 00/10] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership Laura Abbott

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